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How about software developers form a programmers association and learn to negotiate and hire agents and lawyers and all that to make sure they're fairly compens
by omouse 11y ago
How about software developers form a programmers association and learn to negotiate and hire agents and lawyers and all that to make sure they're fairly compensated?
If you're going to have lockstep salaries then you also better have solid onboarding and training programs and an actual promotion process other than "if you aren't bored and stay a while you'll get promoted".
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- te_chris 11y agoOh, you mean like a union? No couldn't do that, we're not communists.
- serge2k 11y agoNo, like a professional association.
- tormeh 11y agoWhat's the difference?
- omouse 11y agoone doesn't get tarred and feathered and lose their jobs when they call it an association. for example: * screen actors guild * nhlpa - national hockey league players association
- raverbashing 11y agoLike the ACM?
- jerf 11y agoBecause it's really difficult to get a whole bunch of people together who collectively pretty much have the best deal of anybody in the current economy and try to get them to collectively negotiate an even better deal. Maybe y'all in Silicon Valley can be under the delusion that programmers somehow have a terrible, terrible job, but I live in Michigan, and that delusion is not available to me. I try not to talk about the details of my job too much with our friends... it's... discourteous. That is not to say that it's all hunky-dory or that if one could get over the step of organizing that a better deal might not be available; see the recent lawsuits over salary collusion, for instance, which is strong evidence there is at least some "better deal" theoretically achievable. I mean exactly what I said in my first paragraph, not as an attempt to slide in another point quietly... it's really difficult to get anything organized under these circumstances.