This. I always wonder when a startup becomes a company too. I heard Soundcloud is paying good money though but at least for all the Berlin startups the wage is

This. I always wonder when a startup becomes a company too. I heard Soundcloud is paying good money though but at least for all the Berlin startups the wage is more one the low side. Wire for example is based in Switzerland for taxes but the development happens in Berlin. A not-to-be-named company I worked for decided not to outsource development to Warsaw since developers are more expensive there than in Berlin (they found even cheaper ones later in other countries though). For some of the list I still wonder why and how they exist since I don't get the business model but maybe a startup is a startup as long as they live from investor money.