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> Speaking for people who make as much as, or more than, me: We could afford to pay a lot more in taxes. Here you go friend... http://fms.treas.gov/faq/moretop

> Speaking for people who make as much as, or more than, me: We could afford to pay a lot more in taxes. Here you go friend... http://fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html http://fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html If what you just said is true, I'm sure you've already done this many times before. Lead by example, practiced what you preached, paid your real tax due. And if not, no need to wait any more. Here is also the public debt gift page (and stats) if you don't like the above one... https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454 https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454 http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/gift/gift.htm http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/gift/gift.htm

vdaniuk 11y ago
This argument doesn't have merit. Tragedy of commons/game theory provides us the basis to understand that individual/group efforts are insufficient. Voluntary donations to government from well-meaning individuals will put them at a disadvantaged position against those who are not concerned with the well-being of the others. Advocating for across the board changes for everyone is a more efficient strategy.
- powertower 11y ago
  > Voluntary donations to government from well-meaning individuals will put them at a disadvantaged position against those who are not concerned with the well-being of the others. The people that hold your position also say that the privileged can't be disadvantaged. What I'm point out is hypocrisy.
  - vdaniuk 11y ago
    >The people that hold your position also say that the privileged can't be disadvantaged. Sorry, I don't get it. Can you elaborate please?
    - powertower 11y ago
      I work for myself, and after I pay my taxes, I have about 2-5K left in my bank account. Then I live month-to-month from what I take in and what I chip away at. If he can afford to pay more taxes, if he makes so much more than I, he can't be disadvantaged to me or the rest of us who can't afford to pay more taxes - by paying what he claims he wants to (but yet does not).
      - vdaniuk 11y ago
        >he can't be disadvantaged The point is not that they are disadvantaged in absolute terms, but in comparison to those who value profit above all else. Voluntary gifts to gov diminishes relative power of those more compassionate and increases relative influence of those who are less inclined to help others. Also, the increase in taxation in question could be applied only at the top of income ranges. Moreover, if you have $2-5K left in your bank account you may be considered privileged by some standards.

vdaniuk 11y ago

This argument doesn't have merit. Tragedy of commons/game theory provides us the basis to understand that individual/group efforts are insufficient. Voluntary donations to government from well-meaning individuals will put them at a disadvantaged position against those who are not concerned with the well-being of the others. Advocating for across the board changes for everyone is a more efficient strategy.

powertower 11y ago
> Voluntary donations to government from well-meaning individuals will put them at a disadvantaged position against those who are not concerned with the well-being of the others. The people that hold your position also say that the privileged can't be disadvantaged. What I'm point out is hypocrisy.
- vdaniuk 11y ago
  >The people that hold your position also say that the privileged can't be disadvantaged. Sorry, I don't get it. Can you elaborate please?
  - powertower 11y ago
    I work for myself, and after I pay my taxes, I have about 2-5K left in my bank account. Then I live month-to-month from what I take in and what I chip away at. If he can afford to pay more taxes, if he makes so much more than I, he can't be disadvantaged to me or the rest of us who can't afford to pay more taxes - by paying what he claims he wants to (but yet does not).
    - vdaniuk 11y ago
      >he can't be disadvantaged The point is not that they are disadvantaged in absolute terms, but in comparison to those who value profit above all else. Voluntary gifts to gov diminishes relative power of those more compassionate and increases relative influence of those who are less inclined to help others. Also, the increase in taxation in question could be applied only at the top of income ranges. Moreover, if you have $2-5K left in your bank account you may be considered privileged by some standards.