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@LogoThete I work in enterprise and don't care about wider landscape.

by M8 11y ago

ownagefool 11y ago
I'm not really i really understand that statement. What is enteprise and why can it ignore the wider landscape?
- _random_ 11y ago
  You can use non-legacy non-ubiquitous languages (as opposed to HTML/JS/CSS), because it's not public-facing. Microsoft is sending a mixed message to enterprise: should they bet on HTML5 and possibly quit the MS ecosystem whatsoever, or XAML is still a major investment for Microsoft? They need to demonstrate that WPF/XAML team is more important than ASP/Azure team.
  - sudioStudio64 11y ago
    That doesn't make any sense. Azure and web tech is incredibly important. XAML can be used for desktop apps and store apps...thats been the story for about three years now. They have said for years that WPF is the way to go if you are writing a desktop app that has rich UI needs. I really don't understand this kind of thing...was C++ dead even though MFC is only getting minor updates? Azure is literally the most important thing that the server and tools division is working on. Just because they are developing cloud tools doesn't mean that they wont support desktop apps. The "mixed message" they have been sending to the enterprise is around licensing. Dev technology changes and this isn't anything new.
  - ownagefool 11y ago
    Well obviously you can do that, under the assumption that the company you work for is locked down and isn't going to even remotly consider any type of BYOD, you could get away with pushing any tech you want, considering you control the clients. However, that doesn't mean that you should and if you're going to lock yourself in to a single priopritory vendor, you're doing yourself and the people you work for a disservice if you haven't weighed it against the alternatives. I highly doubt the GP really meant that, which is what I was really referring to. What is it about "enteprise" which makes them think they're different? Honest question.
CarloSanta4 11y ago
So do I and we're very happy with WPF.
Kwastie 11y ago
This doesn't make any (long term) sense.. You're betting that Microsoft (or any other company) will continue to support all it's api's indefinitely. And when it doesn't, you not caring about a "wider landscape", will bite you. Silverlight is great example of this, one year it's "the best" (enterprise) technology the next year it's dead. I wonder if it's even officially supported on Windows 10.

@LogoThete I work in enterprise and don't care about wider landscape.

by M8 11y ago

@LogoThete I work in enterprise and don't care about wider landscape.

ownagefool 11y ago

I'm not really i really understand that statement. What is enteprise and why can it ignore the wider landscape?

_random_ 11y ago
You can use non-legacy non-ubiquitous languages (as opposed to HTML/JS/CSS), because it's not public-facing. Microsoft is sending a mixed message to enterprise: should they bet on HTML5 and possibly quit the MS ecosystem whatsoever, or XAML is still a major investment for Microsoft? They need to demonstrate that WPF/XAML team is more important than ASP/Azure team.
- sudioStudio64 11y ago
  That doesn't make any sense. Azure and web tech is incredibly important. XAML can be used for desktop apps and store apps...thats been the story for about three years now. They have said for years that WPF is the way to go if you are writing a desktop app that has rich UI needs. I really don't understand this kind of thing...was C++ dead even though MFC is only getting minor updates? Azure is literally the most important thing that the server and tools division is working on. Just because they are developing cloud tools doesn't mean that they wont support desktop apps. The "mixed message" they have been sending to the enterprise is around licensing. Dev technology changes and this isn't anything new.
- ownagefool 11y ago
  Well obviously you can do that, under the assumption that the company you work for is locked down and isn't going to even remotly consider any type of BYOD, you could get away with pushing any tech you want, considering you control the clients. However, that doesn't mean that you should and if you're going to lock yourself in to a single priopritory vendor, you're doing yourself and the people you work for a disservice if you haven't weighed it against the alternatives. I highly doubt the GP really meant that, which is what I was really referring to. What is it about "enteprise" which makes them think they're different? Honest question.

CarloSanta4 11y ago

So do I and we're very happy with WPF.

Kwastie 11y ago

This doesn't make any (long term) sense.. You're betting that Microsoft (or any other company) will continue to support all it's api's indefinitely. And when it doesn't, you not caring about a "wider landscape", will bite you. Silverlight is great example of this, one year it's "the best" (enterprise) technology the next year it's dead. I wonder if it's even officially supported on Windows 10.