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I agree with you that it's a valid objection. I disagree however, when you say " any company claiming to care about your privacy should not be using it." That
by calhoun137 11y ago
I agree with you that it's a valid objection. I disagree however, when you say " any company claiming to care about your privacy should not be using it." That's an easy accusation to throw around, but what is hard to is come up with a better alternative.
What is your suggestion, that they should abandon all analytics, or that they should build their own, or do you not have one? Are you willing to acknowledge that GA solves a real problem and provides valuable information?
In my judgement, it makes a lot of sense that Mozilla would use GA. I want them to use it because I believe in their mission, and I'm sure in the balance of things, it helps them maintain a stronger position as an organization.
- throwthrwo 11y agoThe solution is to use a tracking library. The library should be hosted on your own server, and should not phone home.
- teddyh 11y agoOne obvious and easy alternative to Google Analytics is Piwik. You host it yourself. https://piwik.org/ https://piwik.org/
- throwaway425 11y ago>What is your suggestion, that they should abandon all analytics Ideally, yes. Or at the very least don't use Google for it. Use something like Pwiki instead. Or perhaps try actually allowing your users to decide what if any information they feel comfortable sharing with you. There are other non-profits like the Wikimedia Foundation and the Internet Archive whose websites still somehow manage to function despite not triggering any of the multitude of filter rules that plugins like uBlock ship with.
- magicalist 11y agouBlock blocks Piwik, self-hosted or not.
- cptmashek 11y agoYep, and the easiest way to fix this is something like: @@||piwik-domain.tld^
- Nursie 11y agoI'm sorry, "we need analytics therefore it's fine to violate privacy" is not good reasoning!
- DanBC 11y agoBut Mozilla doesn't appear to have done that. "We need analytics, and we respect privacy, so we've come up with something that's better than most companies but still not good enough for some of our users". It's easy to bash someone for hypocrisy when they're trying trying to do the right thing. It's a bit weird seeing this consternation at Mozilla considering just how scummy the other companies are.
- Nursie 11y agoThey are definitely helping, but I do wish there was wider awareness of the implications of G-A everywhere.