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Well, Apple makes most money with hardware. Unlike Google who makes most money with ads. So at least in theory Apple can more easily invest in privacy. EDIT: C

Well, Apple makes most money with hardware. Unlike Google who makes most money with ads. So at least in theory Apple can more easily invest in privacy. EDIT: Check their last quarter's results, Apple makes only 6% of their revenue with online services: https://www.apple.com/pr/pdf/q1fy15datasum.pdf https://www.apple.com/pr/pdf/q1fy15datasum.pdf

angersock 11y ago
I think they actually get most of their revenue from the App store and iTunes--and in neither of those cases is privacy good for business.
- ama729 11y ago
  > Huberty said that Apple's online services are underappreciated by investors because they accounted for less than 6 percent of the company's revenue over the last 12 months. http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/28/apples-app-store-revenue-set-to-overtake-itunes-store-by-the-end-of-this-year http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/28/apples-app-store-r...
  - angersock 11y ago
    Ah, interesting.
  - sukilot 11y ago
    Revenue is a useless metric when comparing across markets. Hardware and software are different. What are the profit margins?
digitalzombie 11y ago
There was a reddit post where OP works for a third party company that Apple send Siri voice to. People complained that users didn't read the EULA or whatever. Anyway OP said it was very specific too and crazy. So it doesn't sound like Apple being the champion of privacy.
- threeseed 11y ago
  This is the thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2wzmmr/everything_youve_ever_said_to_siricortana_has/ http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2wzmmr/everythin... Apple is using third parties to help make Siri better not to make money. And let's be clear we don't know the contract between Apple and these companies. Given Apple's track record it should have numerous privacy conditions.
  - M2Ys4U 11y ago
    >Given Apple's track record Well Apple collaborate with the NSA, so that immediately disqualifies them from giving the slightest shit about privacy.
    - Joky 11y ago
      What's the alternative for any company? Leaving the US?
      - josteink 11y ago
        Challenge the law, like Microsoft does.
    - bottled_poe 11y ago
      The government sets the rules, companies just play the game. Changing the laws an tax rules are the most direct way to influence the behaviour of businesses.

angersock 11y ago

I think they actually get most of their revenue from the App store and iTunes--and in neither of those cases is privacy good for business.

ama729 11y ago
> Huberty said that Apple's online services are underappreciated by investors because they accounted for less than 6 percent of the company's revenue over the last 12 months. http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/28/apples-app-store-revenue-set-to-overtake-itunes-store-by-the-end-of-this-year http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/28/apples-app-store-r...
- angersock 11y ago
  Ah, interesting.
- sukilot 11y ago
  Revenue is a useless metric when comparing across markets. Hardware and software are different. What are the profit margins?

digitalzombie 11y ago

There was a reddit post where OP works for a third party company that Apple send Siri voice to. People complained that users didn't read the EULA or whatever. Anyway OP said it was very specific too and crazy. So it doesn't sound like Apple being the champion of privacy.

threeseed 11y ago
This is the thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2wzmmr/everything_youve_ever_said_to_siricortana_has/ http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2wzmmr/everythin... Apple is using third parties to help make Siri better not to make money. And let's be clear we don't know the contract between Apple and these companies. Given Apple's track record it should have numerous privacy conditions.
- M2Ys4U 11y ago
  >Given Apple's track record Well Apple collaborate with the NSA, so that immediately disqualifies them from giving the slightest shit about privacy.
  - Joky 11y ago
    What's the alternative for any company? Leaving the US?
    - josteink 11y ago
      Challenge the law, like Microsoft does.
  - bottled_poe 11y ago
    The government sets the rules, companies just play the game. Changing the laws an tax rules are the most direct way to influence the behaviour of businesses.