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How does this compare to something like Privacy Badger[1]? I haven't done any benchmarking, but if it causes similar slowdowns, it isn't bothersome and the bene

How does this compare to something like Privacy Badger[1]? I haven't done any benchmarking, but if it causes similar slowdowns, it isn't bothersome and the benefits are definitely worth it. [1] https://www.eff.org/privacybadger https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

chippy 11y ago
I'd also like a comparison with ublock and/or ghostery. It appears that this becomes enabled after the blocking plugins.
- hobarrera 11y ago
  ublock is more about ads, and this is tracking. While they usually come hand in hand, Facebook ads (eg: while on facebook) don't add additional tracking.
  - plorg 11y ago
    uBlock in 'Advanced User' mode[0] allows for significant, granular script and iframe blocking. 3rd-party default-deny mode, even in the absence of the EasyPrivacy list will give you a significant amount of control over external entities that are frequently used to track users across the web. It's also somewhat more intelligible than NoScript. I would argue that with Dynamic filtering (enabled for advanced users) the goal of uBlock is not limited to ads, but to any undesired content on the internet. I guess you could say the same about Adblock, though, so I guess YMMV. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-quick-guide https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-qu...
  - gorhill 11y ago
    I specifically emphasize on the home page of the project [1]: "uBlock Origin (or uBlock₀) is not an ad blocker; it's a general-purpose blocker." It will report everything to the user -- including behind-the-scene network requests [2]. --- [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#philosophy https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#philosophy [2] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Behind-the-scene-network-requests https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Behind-the-scene-netw...
    - nextos 11y ago
      So this firefox feature is just a subset of what ublock does? BTW, thanks for ublock.
      - nhf 11y ago
        If I remember correctly from the presentation (I was at W2SP where the associated talk was given) there were unspecified performance benefits over having this outsourced to the plugin architecture. I can't download the paper right now for some reason, but I'm sure it's detailed in there.
  - chippy 11y ago
    So perhaps it's more like ghostery than an adblocker.
    - gorhill 11y ago
      Ghostery does not report everything, only what is part of its internal database. uBlock does report everything -- and users can act on that information.
  - mp3geek 11y ago
    Depends on the list installed, If you have Easyprivacy installed then you're covering both sides.
hurin 11y ago
I tried Privacybadger for about 5 minutes: it was awful (significantly worse than ABP), - it's shameful that the EFF wasted donation money to finance a crap project like that, rather than support e.g. https://github.com/gorhill https://github.com/gorhill
- tobias2014 11y ago
  Then you didn't read how PrivacyBadger works. PrivacyBadger is awesome. It doesn't work with fixed blocklists but with heuristics, and detects if you get tracked through different sites, subsequentially blocking this. It obviously doesn't work if you just visit one or a few sites with different trackers in 5 minutes. https://www.eff.org/privacybadger#faq-How-does-Privacy-Badger-work https://www.eff.org/privacybadger#faq-How-does-Privacy-Badge...? Thanks for this EFF.
  - hurin 11y ago
    No, I only got to this part: Privacy Badger was born out of our desire to be able to recommend a single extension that would automatically analyze and block any tracker or ad that violated the principle of user consent; which could function well without any settings, knowledge or configuration by the user And the part where I couldn't manually manipulate what was being blocked. Since apparently multiple pop-up adds on-click were not violating the user principle of consent...

chippy 11y ago

I'd also like a comparison with ublock and/or ghostery. It appears that this becomes enabled after the blocking plugins.

hobarrera 11y ago
ublock is more about ads, and this is tracking. While they usually come hand in hand, Facebook ads (eg: while on facebook) don't add additional tracking.
- plorg 11y ago
  uBlock in 'Advanced User' mode[0] allows for significant, granular script and iframe blocking. 3rd-party default-deny mode, even in the absence of the EasyPrivacy list will give you a significant amount of control over external entities that are frequently used to track users across the web. It's also somewhat more intelligible than NoScript. I would argue that with Dynamic filtering (enabled for advanced users) the goal of uBlock is not limited to ads, but to any undesired content on the internet. I guess you could say the same about Adblock, though, so I guess YMMV. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-quick-guide https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-qu...
- gorhill 11y ago
  I specifically emphasize on the home page of the project [1]: "uBlock Origin (or uBlock₀) is not an ad blocker; it's a general-purpose blocker." It will report everything to the user -- including behind-the-scene network requests [2]. --- [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#philosophy https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#philosophy [2] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Behind-the-scene-network-requests https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Behind-the-scene-netw...
  - nextos 11y ago
    So this firefox feature is just a subset of what ublock does? BTW, thanks for ublock.
    - nhf 11y ago
      If I remember correctly from the presentation (I was at W2SP where the associated talk was given) there were unspecified performance benefits over having this outsourced to the plugin architecture. I can't download the paper right now for some reason, but I'm sure it's detailed in there.
- chippy 11y ago
  So perhaps it's more like ghostery than an adblocker.
  - gorhill 11y ago
    Ghostery does not report everything, only what is part of its internal database. uBlock does report everything -- and users can act on that information.
- mp3geek 11y ago
  Depends on the list installed, If you have Easyprivacy installed then you're covering both sides.

hurin 11y ago

I tried Privacybadger for about 5 minutes: it was awful (significantly worse than ABP), - it's shameful that the EFF wasted donation money to finance a crap project like that, rather than support e.g. https://github.com/gorhill https://github.com/gorhill

tobias2014 11y ago
Then you didn't read how PrivacyBadger works. PrivacyBadger is awesome. It doesn't work with fixed blocklists but with heuristics, and detects if you get tracked through different sites, subsequentially blocking this. It obviously doesn't work if you just visit one or a few sites with different trackers in 5 minutes. https://www.eff.org/privacybadger#faq-How-does-Privacy-Badger-work https://www.eff.org/privacybadger#faq-How-does-Privacy-Badge...? Thanks for this EFF.
- hurin 11y ago
  No, I only got to this part: Privacy Badger was born out of our desire to be able to recommend a single extension that would automatically analyze and block any tracker or ad that violated the principle of user consent; which could function well without any settings, knowledge or configuration by the user And the part where I couldn't manually manipulate what was being blocked. Since apparently multiple pop-up adds on-click were not violating the user principle of consent...