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“Mess this up and sleep with one eye open at night.” Some examples of what these traders discussed in the chat rooms, from the Barclays consent order (https://
by randomname2 11y ago
“Mess this up and sleep with one eye open at night.”
Some examples of what these traders discussed in the chat rooms, from the Barclays consent order (https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2084248/new-york-fines-barclays-485-million-in-currency.pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2084...)
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One particular chat room, referred to by the participating traders and other traders as the “Cartel” included FX traders from Citigroup, JP Morgan, UBS, RBS and Barclays who specialized in trading the Euro.
One Barclays FX trader, when he became the main Euro trader for Barclays in 2011, was desperate to be invited to join the Cartel because of the trading advantages from sharing information with the other main traders of the Euro. After extensive discussion of whether or not this trader “would add value” to the Cartel, he was invited to join for a “1 month trial,” but was advised “mess this up and sleep with one eye open at night.”
On one occasion, a Barclays FX trader explicitly discussed with a JP Morgan trader coordinating the prices offered for USD/South African Rand to a particular customer, stating, in a November 4, 2010 chat, “if you win this we should coordinate you can show a real low one and will still mark it little lower haha.” After the JP Morgan trader suggested that they “prolly shudnt put this on perma chat,” the Barclays trader responded “if this is the chat that puts me over the edge than oh well. much worse out there.”
On June 10, 2011, the Barclays trader stated explicitly in another chat that “we trying to manipulate it a bit more in ny now . . . a coupld buddies of mine and I.”
As the future Co-Head of UK FX Hedge Fund Sales (who was then a Vice President in the New York Branch) wrote in a November 5, 2010 chat: “markup is making sure you make the right decision on price . . . which is whats the worst price i can put on this where the customers decision to trade with me or give me future business doesn’t change . . . if you aint cheating, you aint trying.”
- stygiansonic 11y agoVery interesting quotes! It seems that the most damning evidence comes from these "chat room logs". I wonder if in the future, this sort of behaviour is going to move to OTR chats. (Assuming multi-party OTR becomes a reality)
- dantiberian 11y agoI'm pretty sure that financial companies are required by law to keep these logs.