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I'm sure I'm not the only curious one who'd love to hear the rest of the story if you care to elaborate :)

jacquesm 11y ago
In a nutshell, I built - together with my partners and employees - the first publicly available webcam software (which had a lot of customers from the adult world), and the first webcam community and we found that it turned into a porn site whenever we weren't looking for longer than 30 seconds. Eventually we gave the adult content its own space on the site and charged for access to that portion and this was the financial cork that kept the whole thing afloat during many years. See also: http://jacquesmattheij.com/content/story-behind-wwcom-camaradescom http://jacquesmattheij.com/content/story-behind-wwcom-camara... I've always resisted the pressure to either partner with a porn company or to let the inmates run the asylum but plenty of porn companies licensed the software and quite a few of those then pushed the envelope in terms of development often with lucrative deals as the result.
- talmand 11y ago
  That's just business. You wouldn't be the first to get support from a source you're conflicted with to do what you actually wish to accomplish. If you would decide to walk away, well, then you wouldn't be the first to do that as well.
  - gtirloni 11y ago
    Under the "business as usual" umbrella, many awful things seem justified. Not saying this is the case but just to keep that in mind. Also, "you're not the only one doing this" goes in the same direction.
    - jacquesm 11y ago
      And not to forget: "If I wouldn't do this someone else would" and "The mortgage needs to be paid".
      - gtirloni 11y ago
        Also, "I was just following orders". I think that covers pretty much everything :-)
        talmand 11y ago
        Wow, you people are thinking really deep thoughts on such a simple statement that in no way equates with what you are implying.
    - landryraccoon 11y ago
      Although the there are those who believe there is absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about fully consensual adult porn..
      - jacquesm 11y ago
        And there lies the problem. Even though porn doesn't do anything for me (I'd have noticed by now ;) ), there are plenty of people for who it is apparently quite effective so I'm sure there is a market for it but I wouldn't know how to tell a 'fully consensual adult porn' image from one that is just 'adult porn' without the 'fully consensual' bit.
      - DyslexicAtheist 11y ago
        IMO it's up to the individual to decide if they watch porn or not. So moving these users to a dedicated space seems like a fair thing to do? Even I don't watch porn because I prefer to have the image of my partner in my head when "doing" it, other people might think differently. I prefer to keep judgment out of it.

In a nutshell, I built - together with my partners and employees - the first publicly available webcam software (which had a lot of customers from the adult world), and the first webcam community and we found that it turned into a porn site whenever we weren't looking for longer than 30 seconds. Eventually we gave the adult content its own space on the site and charged for access to that portion and this was the financial cork that kept the whole thing afloat during many years. See also: http://jacquesmattheij.com/content/story-behind-wwcom-camaradescom http://jacquesmattheij.com/content/story-behind-wwcom-camara... I've always resisted the pressure to either partner with a porn company or to let the inmates run the asylum but plenty of porn companies licensed the software and quite a few of those then pushed the envelope in terms of development often with lucrative deals as the result.

talmand 11y ago
That's just business. You wouldn't be the first to get support from a source you're conflicted with to do what you actually wish to accomplish. If you would decide to walk away, well, then you wouldn't be the first to do that as well.
- gtirloni 11y ago
  Under the "business as usual" umbrella, many awful things seem justified. Not saying this is the case but just to keep that in mind. Also, "you're not the only one doing this" goes in the same direction.
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    And not to forget: "If I wouldn't do this someone else would" and "The mortgage needs to be paid".
    - gtirloni 11y ago
      Also, "I was just following orders". I think that covers pretty much everything :-)
      - talmand 11y ago
        Wow, you people are thinking really deep thoughts on such a simple statement that in no way equates with what you are implying.
  - landryraccoon 11y ago
    Although the there are those who believe there is absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about fully consensual adult porn..
    - jacquesm 11y ago
      And there lies the problem. Even though porn doesn't do anything for me (I'd have noticed by now ;) ), there are plenty of people for who it is apparently quite effective so I'm sure there is a market for it but I wouldn't know how to tell a 'fully consensual adult porn' image from one that is just 'adult porn' without the 'fully consensual' bit.
    - DyslexicAtheist 11y ago
      IMO it's up to the individual to decide if they watch porn or not. So moving these users to a dedicated space seems like a fair thing to do? Even I don't watch porn because I prefer to have the image of my partner in my head when "doing" it, other people might think differently. I prefer to keep judgment out of it.