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Maybe the more relevant page is Mozilla's own announcement, instead of some random site. See https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/05/21/help-test-change

by Confiks 11y ago

Maybe the more relevant page is Mozilla's own announcement, instead of some random site. See https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/05/21/help-test-changes-to-new-tab-in-firefox-beta/ https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/05/21/help-test... I think Mozilla needs to do a better job explaining why there is "no tracking involved in delivering Tiles". They now just state that, with no information on how it's implemented, and people will get scared if they don't hear specifics. I can imagine this being implemented without tracking, by simply downloading all advertisements and doing the ad selection on the client. The ad may then of course not 'phone home'. They also state that if you have Do Not Track enabled, these new tiles will be disabled "as we believe that most DNT early adopters are seeking to opt out of all advertising experiences". You can also opt out of them by using the cog at the new tab screen. Still, I don't really like this development.

icebraining 11y ago
They have information in the Bug Tracker, though it's in a more technical language. A plain version is definitively important. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120311 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120311
thristian 11y ago
A better blog-post to link to would be https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2015/05/21/providing-a-valuable-platform-for-advertisers-content-publishers-and-users/ https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2015/05/21/providi... which links to an infographic describing how user privacy is protected: https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/files/2015/05/How-data-is-protected-Infographic1.pdf https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/files/2015/05/How-... For people who don't like infographics, there's also a textual description: https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2015/05/21/putting-our-data-privacy-principles-into-action/ https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2015/05/21/putting-our-data...
- ama729 11y ago
  From your first link: > This is still one of our early steps towards our goal of improving the state of digital advertising for the Web – delivering greater transparency for advertisers, better, more relevant content experiences and, above all, greater control for Firefox users. At least one would hope they could be honest in their goal, I don't think anybody care about the state of digital advertising except marketers.
  - vdaniuk 11y ago
    >At least one would hope they could be honest in their goal, I don't think anybody care about the state of digital advertising except marketers. So users wouldn't care if most ads would be popups and autoplay sound, right? Oh, they would? Who is being dishonest then?
    - ama729 11y ago
      Most users would prefer if there would be no ads at all. I don't think putting ads in Firefox will reduce ads on websites.
      - vdaniuk 11y ago
        >I don't think anybody care about the state of digital advertising except marketers. As I have demonstrated with a simple example, this statement is false. >Most users would prefer if there would be no ads at all. Your attempt at moving the goalposts is irrelevant. Therefore, your accusation of Mozilla being dishonest with their goals is not supported by your arguments.
        pgsandstrom 11y ago
        You are interpreting him too literally. What he meant was simply that it is obvious that Mozilla cares about income from their ads, not about the state of digital advertising.
        vdaniuk 11y ago

by Confiks 11y ago

icebraining 11y ago

They have information in the Bug Tracker, though it's in a more technical language. A plain version is definitively important. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120311 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120311

thristian 11y ago

A better blog-post to link to would be https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2015/05/21/providing-a-valuable-platform-for-advertisers-content-publishers-and-users/ https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2015/05/21/providi... which links to an infographic describing how user privacy is protected: https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/files/2015/05/How-data-is-protected-Infographic1.pdf https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/files/2015/05/How-... For people who don't like infographics, there's also a textual description: https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2015/05/21/putting-our-data-privacy-principles-into-action/ https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2015/05/21/putting-our-data...

ama729 11y ago
From your first link: > This is still one of our early steps towards our goal of improving the state of digital advertising for the Web – delivering greater transparency for advertisers, better, more relevant content experiences and, above all, greater control for Firefox users. At least one would hope they could be honest in their goal, I don't think anybody care about the state of digital advertising except marketers.
- vdaniuk 11y ago
  >At least one would hope they could be honest in their goal, I don't think anybody care about the state of digital advertising except marketers. So users wouldn't care if most ads would be popups and autoplay sound, right? Oh, they would? Who is being dishonest then?
  - ama729 11y ago
    Most users would prefer if there would be no ads at all. I don't think putting ads in Firefox will reduce ads on websites.
    - vdaniuk 11y ago
      >I don't think anybody care about the state of digital advertising except marketers. As I have demonstrated with a simple example, this statement is false. >Most users would prefer if there would be no ads at all. Your attempt at moving the goalposts is irrelevant. Therefore, your accusation of Mozilla being dishonest with their goals is not supported by your arguments.
      - pgsandstrom 11y ago
        You are interpreting him too literally. What he meant was simply that it is obvious that Mozilla cares about income from their ads, not about the state of digital advertising.
        vdaniuk 11y ago