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I wish Google would focus on making regular Android more stable instead. Given the memory management issues I've had on my Nexus 5 and other devices since Lolli

I wish Google would focus on making regular Android more stable instead. Given the memory management issues I've had on my Nexus 5 and other devices since Lollipop, there's no way I'd choose to inflict Android on a low-memory IoT device...

seiji 11y ago
Google is not a person. Google is a transhuman organization with over 60,000 individual consciousnesses taking part in it. Google can do more than one thing at a time (if their management infrastructure doesn't require a single person to approve every action).
- meatysnapper 11y ago
  Java for low-power devices. This is some high-level trolling by Google!
  - ossreality 11y ago
    You know Java runs on SIM cards right?
  - rakyll 11y ago
    There is not a single mention of Java at the Brillo announcement. Irrelevant but flush your biases and assumptions down to the toilet. Java can statically compile to microcontroller architectures with minimal runtime footprint. Stop blaming the languages, blame the runtime implementations.
- monitron 11y ago
  Well. Even a single person can work on more than one task in a day. But much like a single person, the Android team has limited time and energy to allocate. In my perfect world, the whole Android team spends the next three months doing a bug bash and releasing an Android 6 where I reliably get Hangouts messages and don't have to reboot 2-3 times a week. If some of the Android team is working on stripping down the OS for IoT devices, less time is being spent on that hypothetical bug bash. Of course this is all moot because fixing bugs doesn't seem to be a priority for them regardless; adding stickers is far more important. :)
Zigurd 11y ago
I'm amazed Android 5 wasn't a trainwreck considering the scope of changes and speed of development.
- jonathansizz 11y ago
  5.0 was pretty bad on some devices (I got lucky with the Moto X, but if I was a Nexus owner I'd have been really annoyed). 5.1 is massively improved, but it's a pity it took them an extra 6+ months to roll it out. I'd love it if Google took more control off the carriers, and took responsibility into their own hands. If Apple can roll out updates in a couple of days, Google should be able to do much better than they have been doing.
  - Zigurd 11y ago
    Here is the dirty secret: Carriers are sold all kinds of creeping horror to put in their handsets. This badware collects all kinds of information on you. As with a lot of badware, the quality is crap. The engineering is optimized for cost, not quality. So updates take forever. This is why carriers are highly resistant to allowing Google to manage the software on phones. This is why Nexus handsets are mostly sold direct. This is why Google was tempted into exploring being an MVNO.

seiji 11y ago

Google is not a person. Google is a transhuman organization with over 60,000 individual consciousnesses taking part in it. Google can do more than one thing at a time (if their management infrastructure doesn't require a single person to approve every action).

meatysnapper 11y ago
Java for low-power devices. This is some high-level trolling by Google!
- ossreality 11y ago
  You know Java runs on SIM cards right?
- rakyll 11y ago
  There is not a single mention of Java at the Brillo announcement. Irrelevant but flush your biases and assumptions down to the toilet. Java can statically compile to microcontroller architectures with minimal runtime footprint. Stop blaming the languages, blame the runtime implementations.
monitron 11y ago
Well. Even a single person can work on more than one task in a day. But much like a single person, the Android team has limited time and energy to allocate. In my perfect world, the whole Android team spends the next three months doing a bug bash and releasing an Android 6 where I reliably get Hangouts messages and don't have to reboot 2-3 times a week. If some of the Android team is working on stripping down the OS for IoT devices, less time is being spent on that hypothetical bug bash. Of course this is all moot because fixing bugs doesn't seem to be a priority for them regardless; adding stickers is far more important. :)

Zigurd 11y ago

I'm amazed Android 5 wasn't a trainwreck considering the scope of changes and speed of development.

jonathansizz 11y ago
5.0 was pretty bad on some devices (I got lucky with the Moto X, but if I was a Nexus owner I'd have been really annoyed). 5.1 is massively improved, but it's a pity it took them an extra 6+ months to roll it out. I'd love it if Google took more control off the carriers, and took responsibility into their own hands. If Apple can roll out updates in a couple of days, Google should be able to do much better than they have been doing.
- Zigurd 11y ago
  Here is the dirty secret: Carriers are sold all kinds of creeping horror to put in their handsets. This badware collects all kinds of information on you. As with a lot of badware, the quality is crap. The engineering is optimized for cost, not quality. So updates take forever. This is why carriers are highly resistant to allowing Google to manage the software on phones. This is why Nexus handsets are mostly sold direct. This is why Google was tempted into exploring being an MVNO.