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> Rich people don't deserve to be rich, this is a fact. How can someone deserving (or not deserving) something possibly be a fact? Who decides who deserves som

> Rich people don't deserve to be rich, this is a fact. How can someone deserving (or not deserving) something possibly be a fact? Who decides who deserves something and who doesn't? Or is there an objective measure of deserving something, so that it may be a fact? Regardless of whether or not I agree with you, your argument makes no sense.

crimsonalucard 11y ago
>How can someone deserving (or not deserving) something possibly be a fact? Who decides who deserves something and who doesn't? Or is there an objective measure of deserving something, so that it may be a fact? Maybe it's not strictly a objective fact because their is no quantitative measure, if this is how my statement is interpreted by most people then it is my mistake. This does not mean that that the entire argument makes no sense. Many things in life cannot be objectively measured or strictly defined. We all as human beings have the intuition to judge whether or not someone "deserves" something or not even when I don't explicitly mention who does the judging. If I had said that "a murderer deserves to be punished, this is fact" would the argument still make "no sense"? No. It wouldn't. Let me put it this way, unless you're a psychopath, I assume we all have the ability to judge who deserves and doesn't deserve something and that ALL our judgements will be remarkably similar if viewed from an unbiased perspective. That is why I can say such statements without explicitly stating objective measures. If you're rich yourself I would say your judgement is remarkably biased and that you will take a more opposed or ambiguous view towards my statement about what rich people deserve. This occurs because people tend to almost always justify their own situation. This is a fact. Do I have an objective measure of this? No. Do I expect the average reader to be able to understand what I said despite lacking an objective measure? Yes.

crimsonalucard 11y ago

>How can someone deserving (or not deserving) something possibly be a fact? Who decides who deserves something and who doesn't? Or is there an objective measure of deserving something, so that it may be a fact? Maybe it's not strictly a objective fact because their is no quantitative measure, if this is how my statement is interpreted by most people then it is my mistake. This does not mean that that the entire argument makes no sense. Many things in life cannot be objectively measured or strictly defined. We all as human beings have the intuition to judge whether or not someone "deserves" something or not even when I don't explicitly mention who does the judging. If I had said that "a murderer deserves to be punished, this is fact" would the argument still make "no sense"? No. It wouldn't. Let me put it this way, unless you're a psychopath, I assume we all have the ability to judge who deserves and doesn't deserve something and that ALL our judgements will be remarkably similar if viewed from an unbiased perspective. That is why I can say such statements without explicitly stating objective measures. If you're rich yourself I would say your judgement is remarkably biased and that you will take a more opposed or ambiguous view towards my statement about what rich people deserve. This occurs because people tend to almost always justify their own situation. This is a fact. Do I have an objective measure of this? No. Do I expect the average reader to be able to understand what I said despite lacking an objective measure? Yes.