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Do keep in mind that NVIDIA received the code for the game so they could optimize their driver for it [1]. There is no chance of the same happening with AMD an

by chronid 11y ago

Do keep in mind that NVIDIA received the code for the game so they could optimize their driver for it [1]. There is no chance of the same happening with AMD and TW3, since at least at the beginning of 2014: According to Nvidia, developers can, under certain licensing circumstances, gain access to (and optimize) the GameWorks code, but cannot share that code with AMD for optimization purposes. See [2] for the source of that statement. The situation is really that different. [1] http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-07-nvidia-apologises-to-tomb-raider-pc-players-plagued-by-geforce-issues http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-07-nvidia-apologis... [2] http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/173511-nvidias-gameworks-program-usurps-power-from-developers-end-users-and-amd http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/173511-nvidias-gameworks-...

zamalek 11y ago
It seems as though that might have changed[1] (dated 1 year after yours). In truth those in the AAA industry might only be privy to what is actually going on, as I'm seeing a lot of PR bullshit/he-says-she-says from both sides. If NVIDIA is actively restricting access to the code for HairWorks that is indeed very scummy, however, they would technically still be within their rights. [1]: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/NVIDIA-and-AMD-Fight-over-NVIDIA-GameWorks-Program-Devil-Details/NVIDIAs-Response http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/NVIDIA-and-AMD-Fight-...
- chronid 11y ago
  Yes, the FUD seems to be everywhere, I concur. And we'll never know the truth unless a GameWorks contract gets leaked in full, aka never. Business as usual. :) Intel was still within their right (technically) when it forced their own compiler to compile non-optimized code for AMD CPUs. That does not make it right for us, the customers, this is the point I wanted to make.
  - zamalek 11y ago
    > That does not make it right for us, the customers, this is the point I wanted to make. That's an discussion that's likely to never come to a sensible conclusion :). The AMD/NVIDIA situation is definitely one of the negative outcomes of an open/competitive marketplace.

by chronid 11y ago

zamalek 11y ago

It seems as though that might have changed[1] (dated 1 year after yours). In truth those in the AAA industry might only be privy to what is actually going on, as I'm seeing a lot of PR bullshit/he-says-she-says from both sides. If NVIDIA is actively restricting access to the code for HairWorks that is indeed very scummy, however, they would technically still be within their rights. [1]: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/NVIDIA-and-AMD-Fight-over-NVIDIA-GameWorks-Program-Devil-Details/NVIDIAs-Response http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/NVIDIA-and-AMD-Fight-...

chronid 11y ago
Yes, the FUD seems to be everywhere, I concur. And we'll never know the truth unless a GameWorks contract gets leaked in full, aka never. Business as usual. :) Intel was still within their right (technically) when it forced their own compiler to compile non-optimized code for AMD CPUs. That does not make it right for us, the customers, this is the point I wanted to make.
- zamalek 11y ago
  > That does not make it right for us, the customers, this is the point I wanted to make. That's an discussion that's likely to never come to a sensible conclusion :). The AMD/NVIDIA situation is definitely one of the negative outcomes of an open/competitive marketplace.