I agree strongly; I never really mastered C++, but I've done lots of Java development and enough C developments in anger to consider myself at least a journeyma

I agree strongly; I never really mastered C++, but I've done lots of Java development and enough C developments in anger to consider myself at least a journeyman C developer. (I know enough C++ to be dangerous.) The message-passing syntax is such a funny thing to me; it looks weird, but it takes about 1 minute to grok if you try, and then the rest is very simple. It's really dynamic and lets you do some very powerful things that you wouldn't expect to be able to do in a C-derived language (NSProxy, respondsToSelector:, etc.). I find it very natural when doing ObjC development to write all my high-level code is very "objecty" style, and then call into pure C methods when I'm doing something tricky/low-level/fiddly. On the downside, though, mostly due to it being old and not very well adopted, ObjC never got a proper generics system, which is really annoying if you're used to Java or C++.