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I'm a big fan of accountless systems, but utox does need to solve the roaming profile issue. It simply cannot be used in the real world until they nut that one.

lewisl9029 11y ago
Definitely a crucial feature, but a difficult one for any truly distributed application. I'm actually prototyping a similar distributed messaging app using remotestorage.io to try to tackle this issue of profile roaming and persistence. In theory it should allow profiles to live in the cloud (in any backend supported by remotestorage, such as Dropbox, Google Drive, and ofc remotestorage servers) and be sync'd automatically across devices to enable features like roaming profiles and simultaneous logins in a distributed manner. In practice, however, there is still a number of complications such as the need to secure the data being stored from storage providers (remotestorage itself doesn't offer encryption natively), and coordinating communications between accounts with multiple devices (network endpoints) to minimize network inefficiencies. I'm mostly done with the former and steadily making progress toward the latter, so I feel this could be something to consider for the Tox team as well. https://remotestorage.io/ https://remotestorage.io/
- Sir_Substance 11y ago
  >Definitely a crucial feature, but a difficult one for any truly distributed application. I actually don't see why it need be for a messaging app. I guess it depends on the features you are trying to move with the profile, but I just want a single address people can send messages to. I'm happy to reconstruct the profile (name, timezone etc.) on the other device, but I'll never persuade my friends and family to use it if they have to guess which one of 5 devices I am using each time they want to send me a message, and a messaging service that my friends and family won't use is useless to me.

lewisl9029 11y ago

Definitely a crucial feature, but a difficult one for any truly distributed application. I'm actually prototyping a similar distributed messaging app using remotestorage.io to try to tackle this issue of profile roaming and persistence. In theory it should allow profiles to live in the cloud (in any backend supported by remotestorage, such as Dropbox, Google Drive, and ofc remotestorage servers) and be sync'd automatically across devices to enable features like roaming profiles and simultaneous logins in a distributed manner. In practice, however, there is still a number of complications such as the need to secure the data being stored from storage providers (remotestorage itself doesn't offer encryption natively), and coordinating communications between accounts with multiple devices (network endpoints) to minimize network inefficiencies. I'm mostly done with the former and steadily making progress toward the latter, so I feel this could be something to consider for the Tox team as well. https://remotestorage.io/ https://remotestorage.io/

Sir_Substance 11y ago
>Definitely a crucial feature, but a difficult one for any truly distributed application. I actually don't see why it need be for a messaging app. I guess it depends on the features you are trying to move with the profile, but I just want a single address people can send messages to. I'm happy to reconstruct the profile (name, timezone etc.) on the other device, but I'll never persuade my friends and family to use it if they have to guess which one of 5 devices I am using each time they want to send me a message, and a messaging service that my friends and family won't use is useless to me.