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Not to be a naysayer, but why would anyone use this browser given that Adblock Plus is paid [1] by Google/Microsoft/Amazon etc to NOT block their ads? [1] http

Not to be a naysayer, but why would anyone use this browser given that Adblock Plus is paid [1] by Google/Microsoft/Amazon etc to NOT block their ads? [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/google-microsoft-amazon-taboola-pay-adblock-plus-to-stop-blocking-their-ads-2015-2 http://www.businessinsider.com/google-microsoft-amazon-taboo...

Raphmedia 11y ago
A lot of people will say that they don't mind ads that are quiet, targeted and relevant. It's popups for viagra that they don't want. Hell, even those that are correctly targeted by the ads end up being scammed. The extension should really more be called "malware blocker" or something like this, since they are not really against ads.
- rm999 11y ago
  It sounds good in theory, but large websites cannot be added to the whitelist without paying. This implies to me that revenue is higher on ABP's priority list than encouraging "good" ads. If ABP really wanted to make the biggest impact they would actively encourage the largest websites to get whitelisted. https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements#payment https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements#payment
  - hahainternet 11y ago
    > large websites cannot be added to the whitelist without paying The link you provided does not actually say that. It simply implies that a payment might be required.
  - anonymousab 11y ago
    It's a curated ad system that offloads the cost onto the advertiser. For the end-user that makes a lot of sense.
- nugget 11y ago
  Adblock Plus whitelists Taboola and Outbrain, which not only push viagra ads but deceptive ones at that. Time to tell it like it is. The acceptable ads policy is nothing more than a narrative designed to allow them to extort ad networks for cash.
- pavel_lishin 11y ago
  Yeah, I'm in principle fine with ads in general, but look at this: http://i.imgur.com/W2xgJe5.png http://i.imgur.com/W2xgJe5.png Can you even spot the actual content?
rockdoe 11y ago
Because we understand that having a revenue model leads to software that is maintained and developed more actively, and that taking money to do so does not mean the authors suddenly forget about their goals?
- rm999 11y ago
  >Because we understand that having a revenue model leads to software that is maintained and developed more actively This needs a huge citation. uBlock Origin is revenue free (as far as I know) and is well-maintained and arguably far better than ABP. Anyway, most of the work is done by the maintainers of the block lists (including the community), not the software that translates those lists.
  - rockdoe 11y ago
    uBlock is barely 10 months old. AdBlock Plus has been maintained for 9 years. You might have an argument in 9 years. Right now it's just wishful thinking that developer time is free.
    - rm999 11y ago
      ABP has been whitelisting for less than three years, meaning it supported itself for most of its existence. Anyway, uBlock leapfrogged ABP, which tells me that ABP isn't really being developed too well if a newcomer can do so much better. ABP continues to exist primarily on its name - it's a lot like Bittorrent Inc. And again, most of the work isn't done by the developers of the ad blocking software.

Raphmedia 11y ago

A lot of people will say that they don't mind ads that are quiet, targeted and relevant. It's popups for viagra that they don't want. Hell, even those that are correctly targeted by the ads end up being scammed. The extension should really more be called "malware blocker" or something like this, since they are not really against ads.

rm999 11y ago
It sounds good in theory, but large websites cannot be added to the whitelist without paying. This implies to me that revenue is higher on ABP's priority list than encouraging "good" ads. If ABP really wanted to make the biggest impact they would actively encourage the largest websites to get whitelisted. https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements#payment https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads-agreements#payment
- hahainternet 11y ago
  > large websites cannot be added to the whitelist without paying The link you provided does not actually say that. It simply implies that a payment might be required.
- anonymousab 11y ago
  It's a curated ad system that offloads the cost onto the advertiser. For the end-user that makes a lot of sense.
nugget 11y ago
Adblock Plus whitelists Taboola and Outbrain, which not only push viagra ads but deceptive ones at that. Time to tell it like it is. The acceptable ads policy is nothing more than a narrative designed to allow them to extort ad networks for cash.
pavel_lishin 11y ago
Yeah, I'm in principle fine with ads in general, but look at this: http://i.imgur.com/W2xgJe5.png http://i.imgur.com/W2xgJe5.png Can you even spot the actual content?

rockdoe 11y ago

Because we understand that having a revenue model leads to software that is maintained and developed more actively, and that taking money to do so does not mean the authors suddenly forget about their goals?

rm999 11y ago
>Because we understand that having a revenue model leads to software that is maintained and developed more actively This needs a huge citation. uBlock Origin is revenue free (as far as I know) and is well-maintained and arguably far better than ABP. Anyway, most of the work is done by the maintainers of the block lists (including the community), not the software that translates those lists.
- rockdoe 11y ago
  uBlock is barely 10 months old. AdBlock Plus has been maintained for 9 years. You might have an argument in 9 years. Right now it's just wishful thinking that developer time is free.
  - rm999 11y ago
    ABP has been whitelisting for less than three years, meaning it supported itself for most of its existence. Anyway, uBlock leapfrogged ABP, which tells me that ABP isn't really being developed too well if a newcomer can do so much better. ABP continues to exist primarily on its name - it's a lot like Bittorrent Inc. And again, most of the work isn't done by the developers of the ad blocking software.