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I am sure I will get downvoted to all hell, but I understand the politics of your comment. I am sure it will get de-railed, but it would be awesome if someone

by 616c 11y ago

I am sure I will get downvoted to all hell, but I understand the politics of your comment. I am sure it will get de-railed, but it would be awesome if someone can post interviews with well-known female programmers in response here. I would love to read them. I know one of the authors of Learn Haskell authors, superginbaby, is a mother by reading her about page after her very cool "Teach Haskell to a 10 Year Old" post. https://superginbaby.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/teaching-haskell-to-a-10-year-old-day-1/ https://superginbaby.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/teaching-haske... She seems awesome. I would love to read about contemporary programmers, specifically in the open source world (I know, ironic given this in response to Fog Creek). Maybe something more contemporary than the CMU Ada project, which I just found. https://www.women.cs.cmu.edu/ada/Resources/Women/ https://www.women.cs.cmu.edu/ada/Resources/Women/ As a beginner, I want to read about anyone who can do this better than me. I would read from anything, but if I could read machine code better I would be busier with that instead of procrastinating on HN.

jowiar 11y ago
FWIW, I'm a dude. But I've learned at least as much that affects how I write code over the years from talks, books, and whatnot by women as I have from men, if not more so. People have different life experiences that shape how they learned, and how they communicate. And in my experience, I'm far more likely to hear something new and different from someone who didn't grow up like me than from someone who did.
jacquesm 11y ago
http://www.wired.com/2013/07/wireduk-valve-jeri-ellsworth/ http://www.wired.com/2013/07/wireduk-valve-jeri-ellsworth/
- 616c 11y ago
  So I love what you post, jacquesm, but can you give me background? When I wrote my previous post I meant I want to read about their rigs, their programming languages, style, art that inspires them, not corportate melodrama Granted, I totally only skimmed the article. But once I read the title and checked the first few paragraphs, I decided I'll pass as this is the kind of article I avoid. I know there is a problem, but I know these women are getting shat on in some circles. I want to see how the productive ones handle their craft, not shitty company politics. But I will re-read in depth. You usually post cool stuff, so I do not want to write you off from the gate.
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    You asked for an interview, that's what I found, but if you want to know more about what Jeri has been up to in her life then this would be a good starting point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth
    - 616c 11y ago
      Oh, ok. I take that back then. The article I did not like but the Wikipedia article makes her seem like a demi-god. So, thanks again. Good find.
coolsunglasses 11y ago
Hi! I'm Superginbaby's coauthor. Tiny correction (apologies): Julie's my coauthor for our book http://haskellbook.com/ http://haskellbook.com/ - not of the guide. The learnhaskell guide (https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell) is the product of 41 individual contributors. I got the ball rolling on the guide a year ago.
- 616c 11y ago
  Yeah, another mis-step by mom. Sorry for munging the facts. I respect your work. You two are doing cool stuff. So are the 41 net hackers, but not so relevant to my point. :-)

by 616c 11y ago

jowiar 11y ago

FWIW, I'm a dude. But I've learned at least as much that affects how I write code over the years from talks, books, and whatnot by women as I have from men, if not more so. People have different life experiences that shape how they learned, and how they communicate. And in my experience, I'm far more likely to hear something new and different from someone who didn't grow up like me than from someone who did.

jacquesm 11y ago

http://www.wired.com/2013/07/wireduk-valve-jeri-ellsworth/ http://www.wired.com/2013/07/wireduk-valve-jeri-ellsworth/

616c 11y ago
So I love what you post, jacquesm, but can you give me background? When I wrote my previous post I meant I want to read about their rigs, their programming languages, style, art that inspires them, not corportate melodrama Granted, I totally only skimmed the article. But once I read the title and checked the first few paragraphs, I decided I'll pass as this is the kind of article I avoid. I know there is a problem, but I know these women are getting shat on in some circles. I want to see how the productive ones handle their craft, not shitty company politics. But I will re-read in depth. You usually post cool stuff, so I do not want to write you off from the gate.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  You asked for an interview, that's what I found, but if you want to know more about what Jeri has been up to in her life then this would be a good starting point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth
  - 616c 11y ago
    Oh, ok. I take that back then. The article I did not like but the Wikipedia article makes her seem like a demi-god. So, thanks again. Good find.

coolsunglasses 11y ago

Hi! I'm Superginbaby's coauthor. Tiny correction (apologies): Julie's my coauthor for our book http://haskellbook.com/ http://haskellbook.com/ - not of the guide. The learnhaskell guide (https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell https://github.com/bitemyapp/learnhaskell) is the product of 41 individual contributors. I got the ball rolling on the guide a year ago.

616c 11y ago
Yeah, another mis-step by mom. Sorry for munging the facts. I respect your work. You two are doing cool stuff. So are the 41 net hackers, but not so relevant to my point. :-)