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"Why the hell would you write your own framework and reproduce all the features of an existing framework" For fun. To learn a new language. Because you have a

"Why the hell would you write your own framework and reproduce all the features of an existing framework" For fun. To learn a new language. Because you have a new idea to explore. Because sometimes people do invent better wheels (I love the irony in this phrase, given this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecanum_wheel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecanum_wheel ) So you are saying for a large project it might be justifiable to implement your own framework? I would think for a smaller project you could quickly put something together in less time that the learning curve for some of the frameworks. Bug-filled/half implemented seems to be more a comment on programming ability than the decision to write a framework. Fortunately for many people, others have decided they would rather write a new framework than use something that exists.

mrtron 19y ago
I am sorry, I disagree with >Bug-filled/half implemented seems to be more a comment on programming ability than the decision to write a framework. How you can write a fully featured, bug free framework better than an entire web community? Sure writing your own framework is interesting, but I feel my skills are lesser than a huge community of people working together. A smaller project you would not build a large framework, you would build a tiny subsection of features, however then you cannot easily add caching, internationalization, etc if needed. Many programmers will write their own framework. Most of these programmers will jump on a common framework afterwords. I fully agree with >For fun. To learn a new language. Because you have a new idea to explore.
- axod 19y ago
  "How you can write a fully featured, bug free framework better than an entire web community?" How can a small startup team write software better than an entire corporation? Sorry, but bigger+more developers isn't necessarily better.
  - mrtron 19y ago
    >How can a small startup team write software better than an entire corporation? Sorry, but bigger+more developers isn't necessarily better. In a startup I would suggest your efforts would be better working on your core competency. For many people, publishing to the web is just a tiny piece of their startup.
- bsaunder 19y ago
  I think to be one of the principle developers at a start-up, you need to do better than feeling like your "skills are lesser than a huge community of people working together". IMHO, the two/three primary developers at a start-up should be able to code up a new framework that better meets their needs (though possibly less total features) in less time and with fewer bugs than a huge community. It shouldn't even be a close race. Also, by developing their own framework they will know exactly what parts suck and still need work and be better able to support it at launch.
  - mrtron 19y ago
    Sure, but what if publishing to the web is about ~10% of your business, and not your competitive advantage? Do you really want your primary developers coding up a new framework?

mrtron 19y ago

I am sorry, I disagree with >Bug-filled/half implemented seems to be more a comment on programming ability than the decision to write a framework. How you can write a fully featured, bug free framework better than an entire web community? Sure writing your own framework is interesting, but I feel my skills are lesser than a huge community of people working together. A smaller project you would not build a large framework, you would build a tiny subsection of features, however then you cannot easily add caching, internationalization, etc if needed. Many programmers will write their own framework. Most of these programmers will jump on a common framework afterwords. I fully agree with >For fun. To learn a new language. Because you have a new idea to explore.

axod 19y ago
"How you can write a fully featured, bug free framework better than an entire web community?" How can a small startup team write software better than an entire corporation? Sorry, but bigger+more developers isn't necessarily better.
- mrtron 19y ago
  >How can a small startup team write software better than an entire corporation? Sorry, but bigger+more developers isn't necessarily better. In a startup I would suggest your efforts would be better working on your core competency. For many people, publishing to the web is just a tiny piece of their startup.
bsaunder 19y ago
I think to be one of the principle developers at a start-up, you need to do better than feeling like your "skills are lesser than a huge community of people working together". IMHO, the two/three primary developers at a start-up should be able to code up a new framework that better meets their needs (though possibly less total features) in less time and with fewer bugs than a huge community. It shouldn't even be a close race. Also, by developing their own framework they will know exactly what parts suck and still need work and be better able to support it at launch.
- mrtron 19y ago
  Sure, but what if publishing to the web is about ~10% of your business, and not your competitive advantage? Do you really want your primary developers coding up a new framework?