Absolutely agree with the sentiment. A few times I had to help out friends customize something I was horrified at the overall level of code quality. It looks a

Absolutely agree with the sentiment. A few times I had to help out friends customize something I was horrified at the overall level of code quality. It looks as if a B-level programmer started it and C-level programmers helped... And I think this is the crux of it. A-level programmers in general are not interested in such frameworks because they know how to use less friendly ones (and thus don't work on WP & co.) while C-level programmers need such a solution and are willing to help... to the best of their ability of course. That said, they made WP very convenient to use (great admin console, easy installation, no major headaches... well, apart from vulnerabilities ;). Other projects should learn from that. Who cares about great foundation if UX sucks? (Typo3 anyone?) EDIT: replaced "C programmers" with "C-level programmers". I am not talking about those who use programming language C. :)