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Deutsche Telekom “transit” agreement with BND

32 points by ce4 11y ago

blueflow 11y ago
Please note that this is a english environment, please consider using another source or link to google translate. Das hier ist eigentlich eine Englische Seite, linke bitte auf Google Translate oder auf eine Englischsprachige Quelle.
- ce4 11y ago
  Here's the translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnetzpolitik.org%2F2015%2Foesterreich-vertrag-mit-bnd-dienstleister-deutsche-telekom-veroeffentlicht%2F&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev... Edit (switched src/dst lang). Sorry there's seemingly no english press coverage so far
  - sctb 11y ago
    Thanks, we've updated the URL to the translated link.
- deleted 11y ago
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- comrade1 11y ago
  I'm learning German myself and I highly recommend it. In some ways it's very similar to English but then at the same time it has completely alien vocabulary. English is a Germanic language that has been polluted with Latin (overwhelmingly French). German has also been polluted with Latin but at a more primitive level with the accusative for example. Gain another soul and learn another language. Too many Americans only speak English while your European counterparts (educated programmers) speak several.
  - blueflow 11y ago
    German is my native tongue.
    - comrade1 11y ago
      Oh, well, this is embarrassing.
      - blueflow 11y ago
        It gave me a good laugh anyway, have a nice day^^
ce4 11y ago
Article is in german, alas. tldr: Austrian MP Peter Pilz has revealed a secret 2004 contract between german tier-1 ISP Deutsche Telekom and german intelligence service BND to divert all foreign traffic going over DT's various cables connecting Luxembourg, Austria, Amsterdam, Indonesia, Philipine, Australia, Denmark, Ireland and Russia. Side note: Both Luxembourg and Austria have so far filed charges against Deutsche and the BND causing diplomatic stir.
- ce4 11y ago
  Articles about the charges filed so far: Austria: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fderstandard.at%2F2000016035993 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A... Luxembourg: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tageblatt.lu%2Fnachrichten%2Fstory%2FLuxemburg-erstattet-wegen-Spionage-Anzeige-16361124&sandbox=1 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=htt...
DyslexicAtheist 11y ago
the site is down. this one is even better and contains full names and email addresses. http://www.pravda-tv.com/2015/05/strafanzeige-bnd-und-deutsche-telekom-haben-auch-oesterreich-tschechien-und-luxemburg-abgehoert/ http://www.pravda-tv.com/2015/05/strafanzeige-bnd-und-deutsc... you can probably find these people on linkedin. these guys should be publicly shamed and their private addresses and details published online so every nutter can visit them and their families at home as a taste of messing with peoples privacy. fucking cunts.
- blueflow 11y ago
  shaming may help the cause, but its still destroying someones life. I wonder which ideology justifies that.
  - ce4 11y ago
    I can understand the rant. But: those persons already have to deal with the charges filed against them in two countries. Let's hope those cases won't be dropped. Charges on a personal level may lead to less such contracts in the future, hopefully

32 points by ce4 11y ago

Please note that this is a english environment, please consider using another source or link to google translate. Das hier ist eigentlich eine Englische Seite, linke bitte auf Google Translate oder auf eine Englischsprachige Quelle.

ce4 11y ago
Here's the translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnetzpolitik.org%2F2015%2Foesterreich-vertrag-mit-bnd-dienstleister-deutsche-telekom-veroeffentlicht%2F&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev... Edit (switched src/dst lang). Sorry there's seemingly no english press coverage so far
- sctb 11y ago
  Thanks, we've updated the URL to the translated link.
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comrade1 11y ago
I'm learning German myself and I highly recommend it. In some ways it's very similar to English but then at the same time it has completely alien vocabulary. English is a Germanic language that has been polluted with Latin (overwhelmingly French). German has also been polluted with Latin but at a more primitive level with the accusative for example. Gain another soul and learn another language. Too many Americans only speak English while your European counterparts (educated programmers) speak several.
- blueflow 11y ago
  German is my native tongue.
  - comrade1 11y ago
    Oh, well, this is embarrassing.
    - blueflow 11y ago
      It gave me a good laugh anyway, have a nice day^^

ce4 11y ago

Article is in german, alas. tldr: Austrian MP Peter Pilz has revealed a secret 2004 contract between german tier-1 ISP Deutsche Telekom and german intelligence service BND to divert all foreign traffic going over DT's various cables connecting Luxembourg, Austria, Amsterdam, Indonesia, Philipine, Australia, Denmark, Ireland and Russia. Side note: Both Luxembourg and Austria have so far filed charges against Deutsche and the BND causing diplomatic stir.

ce4 11y ago
Articles about the charges filed so far: Austria: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fderstandard.at%2F2000016035993 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A... Luxembourg: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tageblatt.lu%2Fnachrichten%2Fstory%2FLuxemburg-erstattet-wegen-Spionage-Anzeige-16361124&sandbox=1 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=htt...

DyslexicAtheist 11y ago

the site is down. this one is even better and contains full names and email addresses. http://www.pravda-tv.com/2015/05/strafanzeige-bnd-und-deutsche-telekom-haben-auch-oesterreich-tschechien-und-luxemburg-abgehoert/ http://www.pravda-tv.com/2015/05/strafanzeige-bnd-und-deutsc... you can probably find these people on linkedin. these guys should be publicly shamed and their private addresses and details published online so every nutter can visit them and their families at home as a taste of messing with peoples privacy. fucking cunts.

blueflow 11y ago
shaming may help the cause, but its still destroying someones life. I wonder which ideology justifies that.
- ce4 11y ago
  I can understand the rant. But: those persons already have to deal with the charges filed against them in two countries. Let's hope those cases won't be dropped. Charges on a personal level may lead to less such contracts in the future, hopefully