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And just like that - by acquiring the people behind e-commerce plugin WooCommerce - Automattic has become one of the major e-commerce platform providers. Great

And just like that - by acquiring the people behind e-commerce plugin WooCommerce - Automattic has become one of the major e-commerce platform providers. Great move by Automattic.

ereckers 11y ago
WooCommerce has already got a big chunk: http://trends.builtwith.com/shop http://trends.builtwith.com/shop And they're trending up: http://trends.builtwith.com/shop/WooCommerce http://trends.builtwith.com/shop/WooCommerce
themodelplumber 11y ago
WordPress' API and its limitations are so annoying that I just can't imagine developing for this platform unless you desperately need money. Ideally they develop some new product that is more competitive than the current combination of WP & WC.
- wonderyak 11y ago
  The thousands of developers making a living mostly off of WordPress development would probably disagree with you. It's low hanging fruit, not a lot of effort for decent return.
  - themodelplumber 11y ago
    It's a technical debt trap. You dive in with a one-click install and follow up with a bunch of plugins that seem to fit the bill. Then you spend 2-3x more time creating a custom theme for someone than you would in a sensibly-architected CMS, and only then do you begin to realize that maintenance costs down the road are going to be absolutely crazy. Especially when plugins X and Y start requiring a different theming architecture in production builds, and an immediate update to the latest version is now critical due to a security flaw. Then the plugin you were relying on for sub-task Z is sold to a third party, and while they keep promising to address security and usability issues, somehow you start to receive spam for telecommunications equipment through their support channels. This actually happened to me. Low-hanging fruit is often a mirage when it comes to the CMS world.
    - infinii 11y ago
      You're not the first person to make such a comment. You're also not the first to make such comments without suggesting an alternative CMS that addresses all of your concerns.
    - woah 11y ago
      WP is certainly not clean, but it's completely possible to make great sites with it, and it runs a huge number of great sites out there. It sounds like you messed up on a job and are trying to blame someone besides yourself.
- coldtea 11y ago
  >WordPress' API and its limitations are so annoying that I just can't imagine developing for this platform unless you desperately need money. Yes, it's for professionals. Hobbyists can always use some Haskell web framework.
  - codygman 11y ago
    Implying API limitation and annoyance means professional... Yuck. Professionals can also use a Haskell web framework. Increasingly so for their day jobs, at least in my case.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      >Implying API limitation and annoyance means professional... Yuck. Yep. One of the signs of a professional over a hobbyist is pragmatism in using his tools. >Professionals can also use a Haskell web framework Sure, but not by market demand. And they might also be making their clients a diservice by this choice (e.g. making the project difficult to maintain when he leaves etc).

And just like that - by acquiring the people behind e-commerce plugin WooCommerce - Automattic has become one of the major e-commerce platform providers. Great move by Automattic.

ereckers 11y ago

WooCommerce has already got a big chunk: http://trends.builtwith.com/shop http://trends.builtwith.com/shop And they're trending up: http://trends.builtwith.com/shop/WooCommerce http://trends.builtwith.com/shop/WooCommerce

themodelplumber 11y ago

WordPress' API and its limitations are so annoying that I just can't imagine developing for this platform unless you desperately need money. Ideally they develop some new product that is more competitive than the current combination of WP & WC.

wonderyak 11y ago
The thousands of developers making a living mostly off of WordPress development would probably disagree with you. It's low hanging fruit, not a lot of effort for decent return.
- themodelplumber 11y ago
  It's a technical debt trap. You dive in with a one-click install and follow up with a bunch of plugins that seem to fit the bill. Then you spend 2-3x more time creating a custom theme for someone than you would in a sensibly-architected CMS, and only then do you begin to realize that maintenance costs down the road are going to be absolutely crazy. Especially when plugins X and Y start requiring a different theming architecture in production builds, and an immediate update to the latest version is now critical due to a security flaw. Then the plugin you were relying on for sub-task Z is sold to a third party, and while they keep promising to address security and usability issues, somehow you start to receive spam for telecommunications equipment through their support channels. This actually happened to me. Low-hanging fruit is often a mirage when it comes to the CMS world.
  - infinii 11y ago
    You're not the first person to make such a comment. You're also not the first to make such comments without suggesting an alternative CMS that addresses all of your concerns.
  - woah 11y ago
    WP is certainly not clean, but it's completely possible to make great sites with it, and it runs a huge number of great sites out there. It sounds like you messed up on a job and are trying to blame someone besides yourself.
coldtea 11y ago
>WordPress' API and its limitations are so annoying that I just can't imagine developing for this platform unless you desperately need money. Yes, it's for professionals. Hobbyists can always use some Haskell web framework.
- codygman 11y ago
  Implying API limitation and annoyance means professional... Yuck. Professionals can also use a Haskell web framework. Increasingly so for their day jobs, at least in my case.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >Implying API limitation and annoyance means professional... Yuck. Yep. One of the signs of a professional over a hobbyist is pragmatism in using his tools. >Professionals can also use a Haskell web framework Sure, but not by market demand. And they might also be making their clients a diservice by this choice (e.g. making the project difficult to maintain when he leaves etc).