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I think China needs to stop these activities if she wants to be respected internationally. In January this year, two Chinese professors in Norway got kicked out
by nshung 11y ago
I think China needs to stop these activities if she wants to be respected internationally. In January this year, two Chinese professors in Norway got kicked out from a Norwegian university because Norway was also concerned with spying activities from China. [1] I think China economy has come to a point that it needs innovation to move forward. Obviously, stealing intellectual properties from other countries is not the best way to go here.
1. http://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/forskere-ved-uia-utvist-av-norge-1.12177709 http://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/forskere-ved-uia-utvist-av-norge...
- therobot24 11y agoWas this sponsored by the chinese government though? >> They took the technology back to Tianjin University, created a joint venture company with the university to produce the chips, and soon were selling them to both the Chinese military and to commercial customers. They sold chips to the government, but for all we know the gov is just another customer.
- nshung 11y agoPST(Norwegian M15) seems to believe so! But, as in any other case like this, they rarely comment.
- Zikes 11y agoIf the Chinese government knew it could get the same vital technologies at greatly reduced costs while growing its own economy, don't you think they would sponsor this sort of activity?
- mkaziz 11y agoThat's not to say they did.
- therobot24 11y ago>> don't you think they would sponsor this sort of activity whether or not they would doesn't mean they did Plausible or not, implying that it's true because there's an incentive only promotes a biased opinion.
- droidist2 11y agoI wonder if the Chinese government will give any assistance in bringing these people to justice.
- drzaiusapelord 11y agoIf you built your success on theft when and how do you migrate to a non-theft approach? How do you overcome cultural inertia? How do you deal with falling behind in the years (decades?) it'll take to build the universities, industry, salaries, regulations, free market concessions, fair labor rights, etc to support real domestic innovation and a workforce incentivized to not steal? Theft is the only way they can remain competitive and I don't believe they have or want an exit plan. The Chinese don't care about legitimacy. No autocratic one-party state does.
- Kalium 11y agoChina's approach has been to steal, but also send out massive numbers of students and bring them back. They've invested heavily in educational infrastructure. But don't assume that that means moving towards a society that believes in things like fair labor rights. The Communist party isn't much on giving up power.
- drzaiusapelord 11y agoWhat do they bring back? A mentality of theft and copying. Unless they can pivot their values to ownership, creativity, rewarding chance taking, free speech, etc then it won't work for them. This is like all those failed attempts to make a silicon valley in other countries. They overlook the values argument because its politically difficult for them to address it. Autocracies have historically been failures in this regard. Even the entire USSR in its heyday couldn't compete with Intel in the 70s and had to steal technology. Looks like the Chinese are doing the same today with these filter chips.
- Kalium 11y agoWhat they bring back is knowledge and expertise. China is pursuing a strategy with two forks. Theft to catch up, and education to secure a future. It's unwise to treat so large a country as only capable of doing one thing at a time. Similarly, it's unwise to assume that only western values can produce useful innovative outcomes. Cuba is nobody's idea of a free society, but they've done a huge amount of groundbreaking medical research and development.