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People like you completely miss the point on Russia. You cannot accept that it is indeed a democracy, that people are not brainwashed. And that pretty much the
by felipepiresx 11y ago
People like you completely miss the point on Russia. You cannot accept that it is indeed a democracy, that people are not brainwashed. And that pretty much the contrary of what western media portrays is happening there. Trust me, i've been there.
- ljak 11y agoThey are not brainwashed to the same extent that the people of North Korea are brainwashed, but the majority of them do get all of their news from (State-owned) TV channels and uncritically subscribe to the ruling party's ideology. Like Neocons in the US.
- felipepiresx 11y agoBS. People use the internet. Most people support the goverment, why is hard to accept that ? Democracy only works for north americans when they like the leader....
- pluma 11y agoThey're brainwashed to the same extent that many people in the US are brainwashed. The wonderful thing about modern propaganda is that it has become so subtle we often mistake it for our own opinions. As a European when I watched CNN for the first time at the early stages of the Iraq war, I first wasn't sure whether it was supposed to be satire or fiction. It took me a while to realise that this is what many people think of as "news" in the US. Makes me wonder what I miss in our own news media -- you only spot bold faced lies when you have a trusted reference you can compare them to.
- Muromec 11y agoIt's not restricted to TV there it's all the same in internet.
- romankolpak 11y agoCould you provide a reliable source with a more or less unbiased information about Russia then? And please don't mention Russia Today :) Because any I've been reading a lot of information on the matter from a large number of sources, and couldn't help but draw a conclusion that Russia is indeed a pseudo-democracy trying hide its totalitarian essence.
- felipepiresx 11y agoThat's your opinion.
- mr_luc 11y agoI'm sorry -- but Putin employs professional trolls to comment, often in teams of 2 or 3, often speaking amongst themselves to first divert and then control the conversation, on forums just like this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9269760 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9269760 That makes it a bit difficult to respond in good faith to people who chime in with vague, 'you people believe the western media too much' comments. But I'd be interested in knowing your response to concrete things I mentioned in my comment. For instance, how wealthy is Putin? How about his close allies? And how did they make their fortunes? And is he in an endless Presidency, or not? (None of which is to say that Putin hasn't been a fantastically successful President; he reintroduced the stability necessary for Russia to succeed, which it really has during his Presidency ... but the problems with success via concentration of power in one man are age-old, and a common one is a foreign policy, motivated by entirely domestic concerns and a desire to stay on top, that appears irrational on the international stage).
- felipepiresx 11y agoI'm not a professional poster. I already shared my twitter handle. From there you can find my entire social media presence. This is my personal oponion.. I just think its a tell tale when people disregard opinions like mine as enemy propaganda. Its like a sign of the hyve mentality. Contrarian opinions are always right in cases like this.
- WalterSear 11y agoLooks like their propaganda is working then.