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Still no Broadwell

by ajaimk 11y ago

Still no Broadwell

sjwright 11y ago
Not much of a downside, as Broadwell is only a very marginal improvement over Haswell.
Yaggo 11y ago
Still no adequate amount of RAM.
- zaroth 11y ago
  Really? 16GB combined with the PCIe swap really does seem like it would meet the definition of "adequate" for 95% of users.
  - russell_h 11y ago
    It seems that you can upgrade to 32GB as well (update: replies are correct, I seem to have imagined this, both models are still limited to 16GB). My fear is that this means Apple believes Skylake is delayed, since they'll presumably want to do another release early during that cycle.
    - zaroth 11y ago
      I do not see a 32GB option on their site.
    - msluyter 11y ago
      It seems that you can upgrade to 32GB as well. For the iMac, yes, but apparently not for the Macbook Pros. See: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2LL/A&step=config# http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2L...
    - intendedeffect 11y ago
      Maybe wishful thinking, but I don't think this is bad news for Skylake. It's just a token refresh, but it also gets Force Touch into the 15" Pro ahead of a WWDC where FT APIs for 10.11 and iOS 9 will presumably be topics of discussion. It might actually mean Skylake is right on time: people would also be ticked off if they bought what looked like a bigger update (i.e. to Broadwell) and then a redesigned Skylake model appeared just months later.
- rbanffy 11y ago
  Mind if I ask what are you doing with your RAM? I am right now running half a dozen VMs (I'm doing some tests of network management software) and I can see a healthy margin of free memory before the machine will start to swap. I'm under Linux, but I have used similar workloads under Yosemite on a similarly configured Mac. If this laptop could go to 16 gigs (it was an emergency purchase after its 16 gig predecessor was stolen) I wouldn't even bother to check its memory.
  - Yaggo 11y ago
    What the user does with the ram does not really matter. 16 GB is baseline nowadays and the price difference between 16 and 32 GB is minimal. So it's perfectly valid for power user to want at least 32 GB RAM (personally I would happily pay for 64 GB). My original comment concerned Macbook Pro with its stupid 16 GB RAM limit (remember, it's the ultimate top-of-the-line portable power workstation from Apple).

Still no Broadwell

by ajaimk 11y ago

Still no Broadwell

sjwright 11y ago

Not much of a downside, as Broadwell is only a very marginal improvement over Haswell.

Yaggo 11y ago

Still no adequate amount of RAM.

zaroth 11y ago
Really? 16GB combined with the PCIe swap really does seem like it would meet the definition of "adequate" for 95% of users.
- russell_h 11y ago
  It seems that you can upgrade to 32GB as well (update: replies are correct, I seem to have imagined this, both models are still limited to 16GB). My fear is that this means Apple believes Skylake is delayed, since they'll presumably want to do another release early during that cycle.
  - zaroth 11y ago
    I do not see a 32GB option on their site.
  - msluyter 11y ago
    It seems that you can upgrade to 32GB as well. For the iMac, yes, but apparently not for the Macbook Pros. See: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2LL/A&step=config# http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLT2L...
  - intendedeffect 11y ago
    Maybe wishful thinking, but I don't think this is bad news for Skylake. It's just a token refresh, but it also gets Force Touch into the 15" Pro ahead of a WWDC where FT APIs for 10.11 and iOS 9 will presumably be topics of discussion. It might actually mean Skylake is right on time: people would also be ticked off if they bought what looked like a bigger update (i.e. to Broadwell) and then a redesigned Skylake model appeared just months later.
rbanffy 11y ago
Mind if I ask what are you doing with your RAM? I am right now running half a dozen VMs (I'm doing some tests of network management software) and I can see a healthy margin of free memory before the machine will start to swap. I'm under Linux, but I have used similar workloads under Yosemite on a similarly configured Mac. If this laptop could go to 16 gigs (it was an emergency purchase after its 16 gig predecessor was stolen) I wouldn't even bother to check its memory.
- Yaggo 11y ago
  What the user does with the ram does not really matter. 16 GB is baseline nowadays and the price difference between 16 and 32 GB is minimal. So it's perfectly valid for power user to want at least 32 GB RAM (personally I would happily pay for 64 GB). My original comment concerned Macbook Pro with its stupid 16 GB RAM limit (remember, it's the ultimate top-of-the-line portable power workstation from Apple).