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I don't know, but I bet they used Dropbox. Dropbox is huge in the film production world. Lots of files to share among distributed teams. EDIT- LOL. This commen

I don't know, but I bet they used Dropbox. Dropbox is huge in the film production world. Lots of files to share among distributed teams. EDIT- LOL. This comment is currently at -4. I have no idea why.

vernie 11y ago
Probably because you're missing the point?
- jacquesm 11y ago
  No I think it is because people are missing waterlesscloud's point: dropbox is the place to collaborate (or something like dropbox). Just like plenty of programmers collaborate on github and think of it as a place to collaborate.
  - lotsofmangos 11y ago
    It is depressing. Networks are broken to the point where we have services resold back to us to provide the basic functionality that should be inherent in the protocol.
    - jacquesm 11y ago
      It is inherent in the protocol, but providers are more than happy to deny you the option to use your local connection to host services and NAT took away the peer-to-peer nature of the internet before it really took off. See: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/ https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/ (prescient and very depressing read, but read it anyway if you haven't done so). UPNP and some other firewall traversal tricks restored some of that but asymmetric bandwidth is the norm these days. Maybe with IPv6 we'll see a reversal of these trends.
      - lotsofmangos 11y ago
        Exactly my point. Dropbox shoudn't even exist as a business model. edit - not crapping on dropbox particularly. Lots of things should be basic functionality by this point, sharing files being one of them. If stuff was more like plan9, for instance, things like skype wouldn't exist either.
        tedunangst 11y ago
        Why should I be required to leave my computer on 24/7 to share files with some friends?
        nitrogen 11y ago
        Required? Perhaps not. But we "should" definitely have the option, and it should appear seamless on other devices with which we share files whether they're getting them from our own machines or from a private encrypted cloud cache.
        tedunangst 11y ago
        Isn't that exactly what ownCloud is?
        bduerst 11y ago
        You keep saying the word "should", but you're making a jump from what is (descriptive), to what ought to be (prescriptive). This is the is-ought problem, or hume's guillotine. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:Is-Ought_Explained http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:Is-Ought_Explained
nathanaldensr 11y ago
Your comment reads--at least to me--as an advertisement for Dropbox.
- waterlesscloud 11y ago
  Hmm. Maybe so. HN is odd about that sometimes. My intent was merely to add some color commentary. It's not unusual for people on a film project to collaborate remotely, sometimes never meeting. Happens all the time since it's expensive to get people in the same (sometimes far away) place. One of the main tools people use is Dropbox, it's one of those things that really did make the workflow much easier. Even a small indie film project with no visual effects can have thousands of files that need to be shared between people all over the place. Scripts, schedules, budgets, manifests, insurance documents, rental documents, storyboards, concept art, contracts of a 100 different kinds, lighting diagrams, blueprints, music cues, dailies, etc etc etc. It's really nice to have a tool that makes that easy.
  - goatforce5 11y ago
    Apparently iPods (as drives) were the sharing method of choice during Lord of the Rings production. http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ipod-helped-to-make-lord-of-the-rings/ http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ipod-helped-t...

vernie 11y ago

Probably because you're missing the point?

jacquesm 11y ago
No I think it is because people are missing waterlesscloud's point: dropbox is the place to collaborate (or something like dropbox). Just like plenty of programmers collaborate on github and think of it as a place to collaborate.
- lotsofmangos 11y ago
  It is depressing. Networks are broken to the point where we have services resold back to us to provide the basic functionality that should be inherent in the protocol.
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    It is inherent in the protocol, but providers are more than happy to deny you the option to use your local connection to host services and NAT took away the peer-to-peer nature of the internet before it really took off. See: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/ https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/ (prescient and very depressing read, but read it anyway if you haven't done so). UPNP and some other firewall traversal tricks restored some of that but asymmetric bandwidth is the norm these days. Maybe with IPv6 we'll see a reversal of these trends.
    - lotsofmangos 11y ago
      Exactly my point. Dropbox shoudn't even exist as a business model. edit - not crapping on dropbox particularly. Lots of things should be basic functionality by this point, sharing files being one of them. If stuff was more like plan9, for instance, things like skype wouldn't exist either.
      - tedunangst 11y ago
        Why should I be required to leave my computer on 24/7 to share files with some friends?
        nitrogen 11y ago
        Required? Perhaps not. But we "should" definitely have the option, and it should appear seamless on other devices with which we share files whether they're getting them from our own machines or from a private encrypted cloud cache.
        tedunangst 11y ago
        Isn't that exactly what ownCloud is?
        bduerst 11y ago
        You keep saying the word "should", but you're making a jump from what is (descriptive), to what ought to be (prescriptive). This is the is-ought problem, or hume's guillotine. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:Is-Ought_Explained http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:Is-Ought_Explained

nathanaldensr 11y ago

Your comment reads--at least to me--as an advertisement for Dropbox.

waterlesscloud 11y ago
Hmm. Maybe so. HN is odd about that sometimes. My intent was merely to add some color commentary. It's not unusual for people on a film project to collaborate remotely, sometimes never meeting. Happens all the time since it's expensive to get people in the same (sometimes far away) place. One of the main tools people use is Dropbox, it's one of those things that really did make the workflow much easier. Even a small indie film project with no visual effects can have thousands of files that need to be shared between people all over the place. Scripts, schedules, budgets, manifests, insurance documents, rental documents, storyboards, concept art, contracts of a 100 different kinds, lighting diagrams, blueprints, music cues, dailies, etc etc etc. It's really nice to have a tool that makes that easy.
- goatforce5 11y ago
  Apparently iPods (as drives) were the sharing method of choice during Lord of the Rings production. http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ipod-helped-to-make-lord-of-the-rings/ http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ipod-helped-t...