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I would suggest you investigate the prospect that the fundamental human condition involves "dopamine addiction", as dopamine activity is literally the thing our

by mapt 11y ago

I would suggest you investigate the prospect that the fundamental human condition involves "dopamine addiction", as dopamine activity is literally the thing our brain does to trigger pleasure in our mind - it is the primary neurochemical mechanism of that feeling. Dopamine-moderated pleasure, or some variant of it, is a basic drive (perhaps synonymous with 'basic drive', with motivation itself) that we likely share with the entirety of the animal kingdom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reward_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reward_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine#Animals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine#Animals http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/07/what_is_dopamine_love_lust_sex_addiction_gambling_motivation_reward.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/201... I would also point out that fat people very rarely eat much above their natural metabolic burn rate. Instead, people who are presently gaining weight are doing so. Someone who eats an extra 500 calories per day over what their body demands (call it one, one and a half grilled cheese or PB&J sandwiches) gains 1 pound per week, and has gained 52 pounds after 1 year. A fat person who has a stable weight is not eating excess food. The reason you see them eating more food than you, is that when we gain weight, our body demands more energy to feed that body mass; Losing a pound at 130lbs weight requires a similar amount of discomfort & deprivation as losing a pound at 330lbs weight. For them to be feeding a body two and a half times as large on a similar diet as a stable-weight 130lbs person, would represent a very rapid, very uncomfortable weight loss, a starvation diet. Usually, people gaining weight put on pounds slowly; Gaining 26 lbs per year is a 250 calories per day excess. They're only eating 10 or 15% more than they should be to maintain their weight. This is not the behavior of an out-of-control addict chasing the dragon, but a largely functional feedback loop responding to a slight artificial bias in favor of extra food, or less exercise, than it's naturally tuned for (or at least, than it was subjected to previous to the obesity epidemic).

yest 11y ago
OMG, it's NOT about calories, if you eat white sugar it goes straight to fat and if you eat almonds, it is digested gradually. Fat people are addicted to sweets, cookies, rice, bread. They don't eat green veggie with olive oil. Just see WHAT they eat ffs. Just go in the cafe and look in their plates. They ALL eat a ton of noodles, rice (Asia), bread, sweet sauces and sweet "juices" and drinks. Come on, time to wake the fuck up
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  Its absolutely about calories. Habits related to particular foods, including carbs, may be particularly common contributors to thee calorie excess (either by contributing to more calories, or by contributing to food sources which produce feelings which discourage exercise, or both) but ultimately fat gain is produced by a calorie surplus, and maintaining lots of fat.
  - yest 11y ago
    That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar. If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      > That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar. No, that you need a calorie surplus to increase stored energy, whether in the form of fat or otherwise, isn't pseudo-science (the alternative is pseudo-science of the same sort as perpetual motion machines.) And people trying to avoid a calorie surplus are not going to eat more sugar ("processed foods" perhaps -- I mean, lots of convenient high-protein, low-sugar, shelf-stable convenient foods are fairly highly processed from their raw forms. OTOH, I don't see a real problem with them, either. All "processed foods" are not created equal.) > If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat. Right. But if you aren't maintaining a calorie surplus, you aren't going to gain stored energy whether in the form of fat or otherwise, because you're going to be using stored energy at least as fast as you are storing it. OTOH, excess carb intake is often associated with a feeling of lethargy which discourages activity, so in addition to the calories coming in from that activity, that eating pattern can reduce calories going out. And lots of people have metabolic issues related to carbs which make excess carb intake a health problem for other reasons, so its definitely true that there are good reasons to be aware of carb intake for most people, and for people with particular health conditions related to carbs that's even more true. But its not true that either weight or fat gain is unrelated to calorie balance.

by mapt 11y ago

yest 11y ago

OMG, it's NOT about calories, if you eat white sugar it goes straight to fat and if you eat almonds, it is digested gradually. Fat people are addicted to sweets, cookies, rice, bread. They don't eat green veggie with olive oil. Just see WHAT they eat ffs. Just go in the cafe and look in their plates. They ALL eat a ton of noodles, rice (Asia), bread, sweet sauces and sweet "juices" and drinks. Come on, time to wake the fuck up

dragonwriter 11y ago
Its absolutely about calories. Habits related to particular foods, including carbs, may be particularly common contributors to thee calorie excess (either by contributing to more calories, or by contributing to food sources which produce feelings which discourage exercise, or both) but ultimately fat gain is produced by a calorie surplus, and maintaining lots of fat.
- yest 11y ago
  That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar. If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar. No, that you need a calorie surplus to increase stored energy, whether in the form of fat or otherwise, isn't pseudo-science (the alternative is pseudo-science of the same sort as perpetual motion machines.) And people trying to avoid a calorie surplus are not going to eat more sugar ("processed foods" perhaps -- I mean, lots of convenient high-protein, low-sugar, shelf-stable convenient foods are fairly highly processed from their raw forms. OTOH, I don't see a real problem with them, either. All "processed foods" are not created equal.) > If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat. Right. But if you aren't maintaining a calorie surplus, you aren't going to gain stored energy whether in the form of fat or otherwise, because you're going to be using stored energy at least as fast as you are storing it. OTOH, excess carb intake is often associated with a feeling of lethargy which discourages activity, so in addition to the calories coming in from that activity, that eating pattern can reduce calories going out. And lots of people have metabolic issues related to carbs which make excess carb intake a health problem for other reasons, so its definitely true that there are good reasons to be aware of carb intake for most people, and for people with particular health conditions related to carbs that's even more true. But its not true that either weight or fat gain is unrelated to calorie balance.