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Parasitism in general is not completely harmful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism#Value http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism#Value nor is it always fo

Parasitism in general is not completely harmful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism#Value http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism#Value nor is it always forced on the host: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy In the case described in the article the males are obviously getting something out of the symbiotic relationship, but it's nowhere near what the females are getting. I'm sticking to my figurative use of "parasitism" to describe the imbalance.

bruceb 11y ago
These are smart, rich, and powerful men, yet some how they are "snookered" in to the short end of the stick? Seems unlikely.
- stefantalpalaru 11y ago
  Do you know of any other way they could procreate and provide the best environment for their children to grow in, all the while keeping a high social status and level of respectability?
  - mrrrgn 11y ago
    "procreate and provide the best environment for their children to grow in, all the while keeping a high social status and level of respectability" This is the bargain they've made. It's a rather simple exchange. "Parasitic" is a loaded term here, by applying it you're displaying that you have some sort of political axe to grind. This was also the sentiment being expressed above, when someone said that what you said sounded "judgmental" -- an accusation that you dismissed by being, or pretending to be, oblivious to it's true intent: "you're attaching pejorative terms to these women, without enough information to make a fair case for it."
    - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
      > It's a rather simple exchange. It's an obviously imbalanced exchange. We don't take intestinal worms out of the parasites category just because they help us prevent autoimmune diseases. > you're attaching pejorative terms to these women, without enough information to make a fair case for it No, I'm just trying to be objective. If I wanted to insult them I could have called them prostitutes with a single, long-term client.
      - mrrrgn 11y ago
        Once again, the words you choose betray antipathy towards women. Each phrase is packed with loaded words; it makes it impossible to have a legitimate discussion. Sorry for whatever experiences you've had that led to this.
        stefantalpalaru 11y ago
        It's better to refrain from attributing and condemning hidden intent and thoughtcrime. Let's stick to what's explicit when we communicate and maybe we'll avoid wasting each other's time.

bruceb 11y ago

These are smart, rich, and powerful men, yet some how they are "snookered" in to the short end of the stick? Seems unlikely.

stefantalpalaru 11y ago
Do you know of any other way they could procreate and provide the best environment for their children to grow in, all the while keeping a high social status and level of respectability?
- mrrrgn 11y ago
  "procreate and provide the best environment for their children to grow in, all the while keeping a high social status and level of respectability" This is the bargain they've made. It's a rather simple exchange. "Parasitic" is a loaded term here, by applying it you're displaying that you have some sort of political axe to grind. This was also the sentiment being expressed above, when someone said that what you said sounded "judgmental" -- an accusation that you dismissed by being, or pretending to be, oblivious to it's true intent: "you're attaching pejorative terms to these women, without enough information to make a fair case for it."
  - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
    > It's a rather simple exchange. It's an obviously imbalanced exchange. We don't take intestinal worms out of the parasites category just because they help us prevent autoimmune diseases. > you're attaching pejorative terms to these women, without enough information to make a fair case for it No, I'm just trying to be objective. If I wanted to insult them I could have called them prostitutes with a single, long-term client.
    - mrrrgn 11y ago
      Once again, the words you choose betray antipathy towards women. Each phrase is packed with loaded words; it makes it impossible to have a legitimate discussion. Sorry for whatever experiences you've had that led to this.
      - stefantalpalaru 11y ago
        It's better to refrain from attributing and condemning hidden intent and thoughtcrime. Let's stick to what's explicit when we communicate and maybe we'll avoid wasting each other's time.