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The problem isn't that these women choose to be with men that provide for them economically. They have every right to do so and they shouldn't be shamed for it

The problem isn't that these women choose to be with men that provide for them economically. They have every right to do so and they shouldn't be shamed for it. Staying at home and raising kids is very hard and respectable work. The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. There are many cultural barriers to entry for women to reach those positions if they so desire, despite their "prestigious post-graduate degrees". The hierarchies described in the stories only perpetuate this narrative. *Edit: Spelling

guard-of-terra 11y ago
It would be interesting to know how life is structured for upper class in countries with much better gender parity in high-end jobs. Northern Europe maybe? Maybe we'll find out it behaves more like upper middle class, and income extremes are rare.
stefantalpalaru 11y ago
> and they shouldn't be shamed for it There's the root of censorship, right there. Justified with presumed intentions and subjective feelings instead of the content. > Staying at home and raising kids is very hard and respectable work. It is, but it's not enough. The kids also need shelter, food, schooling, healthcare and all those things that cost money. Money that the hard-working stay-at-home mom is not bringing to the household. > The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. What if they don't want to? They have the education, they have the degrees, they have the connections, but they prefer not to do any remunerated work outside the house. What if this is for them the good life we all dream of in one way or another?
facepalm 11y ago
That's like saying an apple will never be an orange. These woman are where they are because of the life choices they make. The theory that there are barriers preventing them from doing something else is not at all supported from the evidence given in the article. The article does not even mention any attempts to do something else, nor barriers encountered.
chongli 11y ago
The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. Sure, there aren't very many wealthy female hedge fund managers or CEOs but there are tons of women who are the sole breadwinners for stay-at-home husbands. As of 2007, 2.7% of parents are stay-at-home dads[0]! That's up from less than 1% in 1997. I don't know what the numbers are today but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe they're even higher. There are A TON of women graduating from college these days and not nearly so many wealthy male hedge fund managers to marry. [0]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601289.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06...

guard-of-terra 11y ago

It would be interesting to know how life is structured for upper class in countries with much better gender parity in high-end jobs. Northern Europe maybe? Maybe we'll find out it behaves more like upper middle class, and income extremes are rare.

stefantalpalaru 11y ago

> and they shouldn't be shamed for it There's the root of censorship, right there. Justified with presumed intentions and subjective feelings instead of the content. > Staying at home and raising kids is very hard and respectable work. It is, but it's not enough. The kids also need shelter, food, schooling, healthcare and all those things that cost money. Money that the hard-working stay-at-home mom is not bringing to the household. > The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. What if they don't want to? They have the education, they have the degrees, they have the connections, but they prefer not to do any remunerated work outside the house. What if this is for them the good life we all dream of in one way or another?

facepalm 11y ago

That's like saying an apple will never be an orange. These woman are where they are because of the life choices they make. The theory that there are barriers preventing them from doing something else is not at all supported from the evidence given in the article. The article does not even mention any attempts to do something else, nor barriers encountered.

chongli 11y ago

The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. Sure, there aren't very many wealthy female hedge fund managers or CEOs but there are tons of women who are the sole breadwinners for stay-at-home husbands. As of 2007, 2.7% of parents are stay-at-home dads[0]! That's up from less than 1% in 1997. I don't know what the numbers are today but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe they're even higher. There are A TON of women graduating from college these days and not nearly so many wealthy male hedge fund managers to marry. [0]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601289.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06...