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While the phone doesn't meet it's stated spec, it's still pretty amazing that tech that'd have been top of the line a few years back now costs less than a night

by bbrazil 11y ago

While the phone doesn't meet it's stated spec, it's still pretty amazing that tech that'd have been top of the line a few years back now costs less than a night out.

zokier 11y ago
Actually it is bit uncanny how you can basically apply a variation of Moores law. The specs of Huami H3 seem to be somewhat comparable to Nexus One, which was released almost five and half years ago. That puts 3.5 18 month cycles between the two devices. $34*(2^3.5) = $400, which sounds about right for "high-end" no-name Chinese phone.
- vidarh 11y ago
  $400 on Aliexpress gets you into the range of branded phones from brands like Sony, Xiaomi, Lenovo, Huawei, ZTE, Oppo, Jiayu these days. Almost none of the phones in that range are truly "no-name" (though beware the fakes) - even Oppo and Jiayu are fairly established brands by now, though obviously nowhere near as well known.
  - userbinator 11y ago
    I didn't think of Jiayu as being in that range of the market, but apparently their reputation has been good enough that others have been faking their phones. They have some... interesting models like this one, which is far cheaper than $400: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/28/octacore-jiayu-g5s-review/ http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/28/octacore-jiayu-g5s-review... I have the quadcore (MT6589) version and have gotten quite a few "is that an iPhone running Android?" questions, which somewhat adds to the experience of owning one. It's slightly bigger than an iPhone though.
- digi_owl 11y ago
  This falls squarely within Moore's Law in the classic definition of transistor density. This because transistor density allows for two things, but Intel is only pushing one of them. First it allows for more compute power for a certain price. Second, it allows for a set compute power at a lower price. The second comes because you can stack more chips on a single wafer, and so get a bigger yield out of each production run. I suspect Intel avoids that one because it will inevitably lead to a race to the bottom.
  - zokier 11y ago
    In case you haven't noticed, Intel has been consistently been pushing towards smaller dies for some time now. Atoms are prime example, but it also happening in their Core series. See e.g. this http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-10nm-and-7nm-technologies-have-perfect-economic-feasibility/ http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-10n... article for "Weighted Average Die Size" graph. Or this graphic: http://729675461.r.lightningbase-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/5th-gen-intel-broadwell-u-CPU-improvements.jpg http://729675461.r.lightningbase-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/...

by bbrazil 11y ago

While the phone doesn't meet it's stated spec, it's still pretty amazing that tech that'd have been top of the line a few years back now costs less than a night out.

zokier 11y ago

Actually it is bit uncanny how you can basically apply a variation of Moores law. The specs of Huami H3 seem to be somewhat comparable to Nexus One, which was released almost five and half years ago. That puts 3.5 18 month cycles between the two devices. $34*(2^3.5) = $400, which sounds about right for "high-end" no-name Chinese phone.

vidarh 11y ago
$400 on Aliexpress gets you into the range of branded phones from brands like Sony, Xiaomi, Lenovo, Huawei, ZTE, Oppo, Jiayu these days. Almost none of the phones in that range are truly "no-name" (though beware the fakes) - even Oppo and Jiayu are fairly established brands by now, though obviously nowhere near as well known.
- userbinator 11y ago
  I didn't think of Jiayu as being in that range of the market, but apparently their reputation has been good enough that others have been faking their phones. They have some... interesting models like this one, which is far cheaper than $400: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/28/octacore-jiayu-g5s-review/ http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/28/octacore-jiayu-g5s-review... I have the quadcore (MT6589) version and have gotten quite a few "is that an iPhone running Android?" questions, which somewhat adds to the experience of owning one. It's slightly bigger than an iPhone though.
digi_owl 11y ago
This falls squarely within Moore's Law in the classic definition of transistor density. This because transistor density allows for two things, but Intel is only pushing one of them. First it allows for more compute power for a certain price. Second, it allows for a set compute power at a lower price. The second comes because you can stack more chips on a single wafer, and so get a bigger yield out of each production run. I suspect Intel avoids that one because it will inevitably lead to a race to the bottom.
- zokier 11y ago
  In case you haven't noticed, Intel has been consistently been pushing towards smaller dies for some time now. Atoms are prime example, but it also happening in their Core series. See e.g. this http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-10nm-and-7nm-technologies-have-perfect-economic-feasibility/ http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-10n... article for "Weighted Average Die Size" graph. Or this graphic: http://729675461.r.lightningbase-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/5th-gen-intel-broadwell-u-CPU-improvements.jpg http://729675461.r.lightningbase-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/...