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The most fascist part, out of a bunch of fascist parts: > Pawluck is also prohibited from posting anything about police or anyone associated with the judicial

by jMyles 12y ago

The most fascist part, out of a bunch of fascist parts: > Pawluck is also prohibited from posting anything about police or anyone associated with the judicial system.

kenrikm 12y ago
My opinion of Canada just dropped a few points.
- pascalmemories 12y ago
  Start by reducing your opinion of Quebec where this case took place. It has a legal system inspired more by French law than by the English law used in other provinces. French law permits such things as prosecution of libel of dead people which English law does not. There is really no concept like free expression in the English law sense (and most certainly not in the US constitutional sense). I doubt this case would have played out the same way in any other province. No other province operates enforcement units to trap businesses using English in order to fine them for not using French or having French words smaller than English ones. (for a recap of that nonsense, start with http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-language-politics-intensify-in-canadian-province/ http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-lang...)
  - alricb 12y ago
    I doubt this case would have played out the same way in any other province. That's because you don't know much about Canadian law. Pawluck was found guilty of Criminal Harassment, which is the same offence ad mare usque ad mare, ou d'une mare à l'autre, as we say over here. Criminal Code, section 264.
    - ghshephard 12y ago
      Google translate converts, "ad mare usque ad mare, ou d'une mare à l'autre," to "usque ad ad mare mare or a mare to another" I'm wondering if someone could help us out a bit.
      - sp332 12y ago
        The first phrase is Latin. "From sea to sea." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mari_Usque_Ad_Mare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mari_Usque_Ad_Mare The second is a (funny?) half-Latin half-French way of saying "From one sea to the other".
        alricb 12y ago
        Explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada_(1963%E2%80%9393) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada_(196...
  - nkassis 12y ago
    "French law permits such things as prosecution of libel of dead people which English law does not. There is really no concept like free expression in the English law sense (and most certainly not in the US constitutional sense)." Canada has country wide libel laws that this might fall under and as alricb explained this could have happen any where in the country. "No other province operates enforcement units to trap businesses using English in order to fine them for not using French or having French words smaller than English ones. (for a recap of that nonsense, start with http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-lang...)" http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-lang... Quebec language laws have nothing to do with this case. I fail to see what you point is by bringing them up. Also the language law while draconian and often ridiculous have to be understood in context of when they were created. I'm not a fan of them but I wouldn't use that as an example of Quebec being anti free speech.

by jMyles 12y ago

The most fascist part, out of a bunch of fascist parts: > Pawluck is also prohibited from posting anything about police or anyone associated with the judicial system.

kenrikm 12y ago

My opinion of Canada just dropped a few points.

pascalmemories 12y ago
Start by reducing your opinion of Quebec where this case took place. It has a legal system inspired more by French law than by the English law used in other provinces. French law permits such things as prosecution of libel of dead people which English law does not. There is really no concept like free expression in the English law sense (and most certainly not in the US constitutional sense). I doubt this case would have played out the same way in any other province. No other province operates enforcement units to trap businesses using English in order to fine them for not using French or having French words smaller than English ones. (for a recap of that nonsense, start with http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-language-politics-intensify-in-canadian-province/ http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-lang...)
- alricb 12y ago
  I doubt this case would have played out the same way in any other province. That's because you don't know much about Canadian law. Pawluck was found guilty of Criminal Harassment, which is the same offence ad mare usque ad mare, ou d'une mare à l'autre, as we say over here. Criminal Code, section 264.
  - ghshephard 12y ago
    Google translate converts, "ad mare usque ad mare, ou d'une mare à l'autre," to "usque ad ad mare mare or a mare to another" I'm wondering if someone could help us out a bit.
    - sp332 12y ago
      The first phrase is Latin. "From sea to sea." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mari_Usque_Ad_Mare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mari_Usque_Ad_Mare The second is a (funny?) half-Latin half-French way of saying "From one sea to the other".
      - alricb 12y ago
        Explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada_(1963%E2%80%9393) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada_(196...
- nkassis 12y ago
  "French law permits such things as prosecution of libel of dead people which English law does not. There is really no concept like free expression in the English law sense (and most certainly not in the US constitutional sense)." Canada has country wide libel laws that this might fall under and as alricb explained this could have happen any where in the country. "No other province operates enforcement units to trap businesses using English in order to fine them for not using French or having French words smaller than English ones. (for a recap of that nonsense, start with http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-lang...)" http://world.time.com/2013/04/08/quebecs-war-on-english-lang... Quebec language laws have nothing to do with this case. I fail to see what you point is by bringing them up. Also the language law while draconian and often ridiculous have to be understood in context of when they were created. I'm not a fan of them but I wouldn't use that as an example of Quebec being anti free speech.