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> Mozilla is one of the good, independent orgs So they say, but their actions, here, put them in with Google. > If they remove third-party analytics from thei

by cbd1984 11y ago

> Mozilla is one of the good, independent orgs So they say, but their actions, here, put them in with Google. > If they remove third-party analytics from their web properties, Mozilla instantly loses valuable actionable insights that significantly increase their efficiency as an organization. I disagree, and I fail to see what Mozilla needs from analytics badly enough to require them to partner with Google in such a privacy-robbing fashion. > If Mozilla loses operational efficiency, Google/Microsoft becomes more powerful and are able to obtain more users for Chrome/IE. They use all analytics they need. So Mozilla should feed Google more data? > No meaningful privacy increase for users is achieved, Google Analytics is now installed on (billions - 1) websites. You just said Google and Mozilla were in competition. Make up your mind.

vdaniuk 11y ago
Unless we discuss this issue in terms of cost/benefit analysis of various strategies I don't see a reason to continue this discussion.
- pdkl95 11y ago
  Unless we discuss this issue in terms of respect for user privacy, the cost/benefit analysis isn't even relevant.9 The fact that something is useful doesn't automagically make it ethical. I'm sure aggregated GA provides a lot of useful information. Our point is that if you are using GA - for any reason - then you're a spy that prioritizes your addiction to analytics over the privacy the people visiting your site. Unfortunately, given you're posts in this thread, I don't expect you to understand this. Upton Sinclair was very insightful when he said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!". Have fun inspecting your analytics reports and using that data for another round of page tweaking and tuning; it maybe be more socially acceptable than the Twitter user who continually refreshes their latest post to watch their hit rate increase, but still a sign of addiction.

by cbd1984 11y ago

vdaniuk 11y ago

Unless we discuss this issue in terms of cost/benefit analysis of various strategies I don't see a reason to continue this discussion.

pdkl95 11y ago
Unless we discuss this issue in terms of respect for user privacy, the cost/benefit analysis isn't even relevant.9 The fact that something is useful doesn't automagically make it ethical. I'm sure aggregated GA provides a lot of useful information. Our point is that if you are using GA - for any reason - then you're a spy that prioritizes your addiction to analytics over the privacy the people visiting your site. Unfortunately, given you're posts in this thread, I don't expect you to understand this. Upton Sinclair was very insightful when he said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!". Have fun inspecting your analytics reports and using that data for another round of page tweaking and tuning; it maybe be more socially acceptable than the Twitter user who continually refreshes their latest post to watch their hit rate increase, but still a sign of addiction.