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You make excellent points. This problem needs to be addressed in the political space.

c0achmcguirk 12y ago
Please no. I think the web community can solve problems faster and more efficiently than governments. Remember the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003? Did it solve our spam problem or did your email provider do it?
- eternalban 12y ago
  It is a matter of constitutional law and civil rights, not technology. > .. "web" .. This is an issue that is not merely limited to networks, much less simply "web".
Sir_Substance 12y ago
I'm a big fan of the EU's "right to be forgotten". I never quite got how everyone decided that it was a tool for pedophiles. If it had been implemented in a robust way that required companies like google to remove all data about you, I'd be making an annual request, on general principals. Given unlimited political power, I'd probably boil it down to the trifecta of "collecting data about someone, even in anonymised form, constitutes opening an account for them. Accounts are always wholly owned by the person they are about. In the event of multiperson accounts each individual has controlling influence over the account's deletion (see rule three)", "when an account is created the owner or owners must be notified", "upon an account owners request, you must completely delete an account and all associated data, working in good faith to delete it as fast as possible, even if deleting that data will affect other accounts". It probably needs some refining, but the goal is to punish deliberately obfuscatory system designs where data or account information is deliberately entangled to make data deletion impractical, and give people control final control over the gathering of personal data about them. Ultimately, I really liked the Gevulot system from the quantum thief (really worth reading, it's an amazing series). It'd be nice to have an internet based version of the same system.

Please no. I think the web community can solve problems faster and more efficiently than governments. Remember the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003? Did it solve our spam problem or did your email provider do it?

eternalban 12y ago
It is a matter of constitutional law and civil rights, not technology. > .. "web" .. This is an issue that is not merely limited to networks, much less simply "web".

Sir_Substance 12y ago

I'm a big fan of the EU's "right to be forgotten". I never quite got how everyone decided that it was a tool for pedophiles. If it had been implemented in a robust way that required companies like google to remove all data about you, I'd be making an annual request, on general principals. Given unlimited political power, I'd probably boil it down to the trifecta of "collecting data about someone, even in anonymised form, constitutes opening an account for them. Accounts are always wholly owned by the person they are about. In the event of multiperson accounts each individual has controlling influence over the account's deletion (see rule three)", "when an account is created the owner or owners must be notified", "upon an account owners request, you must completely delete an account and all associated data, working in good faith to delete it as fast as possible, even if deleting that data will affect other accounts". It probably needs some refining, but the goal is to punish deliberately obfuscatory system designs where data or account information is deliberately entangled to make data deletion impractical, and give people control final control over the gathering of personal data about them. Ultimately, I really liked the Gevulot system from the quantum thief (really worth reading, it's an amazing series). It'd be nice to have an internet based version of the same system.