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Good for them. They are still ratting out their visitors to Google.
by aw3c2 11y ago
Good for them. They are still ratting out their visitors to Google.
- donohoe 11y agoSuch melodrama. As we speak police vans are en route to round up visitors to that Mozilla page, in co-ordination with Google's security division...
- Sir_Substance 11y agoSuch strawman, very shill, wow. The information google gathers will never go away. If google collapses, that data will be slurped up by governments and the private sector alike, and there's absolutely no way for you to predict how it will be used in 40 years time. The optimum strategy is to never let them get an ounce of information about you.
- threeseed 11y agoAnd how is it different if Mozilla were to run their own stack ? Or are you suggesting that they should do no analytics at all.
- sp332 11y agoData on Mozilla's servers can't be cross-referenced to add to the profiles of visitors and track them across the internet.
- madez 11y agoThe point is not to centrally agregate data in the first place because the synergetic effect is too big. Knowing 24/7 where you are is one thing, and knowing everything you search is another, but if you combine these two, it already becomes very scary. Google knows so much more. It is a wet dream of spying agencies. What can we do about it? I think most people don't understand technology enough to see what happens, so education might be the first step. I personally avoid Google.
- Sir_Substance 11y agoIf everyone on the internet created their own analytics stack, the data integration issues alone would prevent aggregation and abuse in 40 years time.
- eternalban 11y agoYou make excellent points. This problem needs to be addressed in the political space.
- c0achmcguirk 11y agoPlease no. I think the web community can solve problems faster and more efficiently than governments. Remember the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003? Did it solve our spam problem or did your email provider do it?
- eternalban 11y agoIt is a matter of constitutional law and civil rights, not technology. > .. "web" .. This is an issue that is not merely limited to networks, much less simply "web".
- Sir_Substance 11y agoI'm a big fan of the EU's "right to be forgotten". I never quite got how everyone decided that it was a tool for pedophiles. If it had been implemented in a robust way that required companies like google to remove all data about you, I'd be making an annual request, on general principals. Given unlimited political power, I'd probably boil it down to the trifecta of "collecting data about someone, even in anonymised form, constitutes opening an account for them. Accounts are always wholly owned by the person they are about. In the event of multiperson accounts each individual has controlling influence over the account's deletion (see rule three)", "when an account is created the owner or owners must be notified", "upon an account owners request, you must completely delete an account and all associated data, working in good faith to delete it as fast as possible, even if deleting that data will affect other accounts". It probably needs some refining, but the goal is to punish deliberately obfuscatory system designs where data or account information is deliberately entangled to make data deletion impractical, and give people control final control over the gathering of personal data about them. Ultimately, I really liked the Gevulot system from the quantum thief (really worth reading, it's an amazing series). It'd be nice to have an internet based version of the same system.