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"muni is wildly expensive compared to any other competent city" This is just so not true. Transit is much more expensive in both Tokyo and London. Agreed abou

• x0x0 11y ago
  combining the end-user and city-paid prices, it is see, eg http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/the-muni-death-spiral/Content?oid=2176739 http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/the-muni-death-spiral/C... • Your Muni is slow. With an average vehicle speed of 8.1 mph, it is far and away the slowest major urban transit system in the nation. While some of this can be blamed on San Francisco's congestion and density, there are myriad methods of speeding up service other agencies have adopted that Muni hasn't. This isn't just an inconvenience for Muni's declining ridership; it's a major financial drain on a beleaguered system. Slow vehicle speeds force Muni to spend more money to provide less service. Muni's lethargy is literally costing it millions. • For these and other reasons, Muni spends more to operate its vehicles than virtually any comparable transit agency. For every mile Muni runs a bus in this city, it spends $19.21; comparable agencies nationwide pay between $10 and $13. For every mile Muni runs a light-rail vehicle, it throws down $24.37; comparable rail services spend between $12 and $22.
  • ripley12 11y ago
    That is an interesting link, thanks. I do wish it was better about providing sources though.