> That's what I'm asking, why are talented developers allowing themselves to be subservient? Answer: trying to get a real product to market successfully requir

> That's what I'm asking, why are talented developers allowing themselves to be subservient? Answer: trying to get a real product to market successfully requires a lot more than small scripts that automate processes. It's not that automation and the like doesn't have value, but ask the average developer to get on the phone and sell something, or to have a meaningful conversation with a customer, and you might start to understand why other people in an organization (salespeople, product managers, etc.) have some sway too. If you simply put a bunch of talented developers in a room, chances are you're not going to end up with a successful business.