Again: It is plain wrong to say "you don't need horsepower to get uphill, you need torque". If you do not have horse power you cannot produce any torque. Horse

Again: It is plain wrong to say "you don't need horsepower to get uphill, you need torque". If you do not have horse power you cannot produce any torque. Horse power is the cause and torque is the effect. And torque is the cause, and uphill motion is the effect. So Horse power is the ultimate cause. If we are going to nitpick with definitions, let us do it properly. Unless it is painfully obvious that I am hurting civil conversation here, a downmod is to be followed by a line of clarification.