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we should also have freedom of speech then.

krapp 11y ago
this is free speech - as long as no one gets arrested for expressing an opinion. Free speech doesn't mean no one gets to disagree with you in a public forum. https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/
- 100timesthis 11y ago
  I never said it was, and I never asked amyjess not to express his opinion, I was just pointing out that screaming against censorship is completely irrelevant with the parent post, I tough this was pretty clear.
  - juliangregorian 11y ago
    How did you look at the username "amyjess" and then decide "this person clearly prefers to be addressed by male pronouns"?
    - amyjess 11y ago
      The charitable explanation is that they don't pay attention to usernames (I'm guilty of this too) and default to male pronouns for everyone. The sinister explanation is that they dug through my post history, saw that I'm trans (I'm very open about it, and in fact I've been discussing my name change in another thread this morning), and decided to misgender me either out of bigotry or just to be hurtful. I'm not sure which one to believe.
      - 100timesthis 11y ago
        right, that's the deal, if you make a interesting comments I check your other comments, if you make a stupid one why would I bothered? your comment was stupid,I didn't check your comments, just copy-pasted your name, and really. anyway believe what you want, I don't need any "charitable" explanations
  - 100timesthis 11y ago
    juliangregorian I can't reply to your comment so I reply here: I didn't even read the name, I'm not interested gender when I talk to someone online I just defaulted into "his". Was just a curiosity or are you implying I'm being sexist?
    - juliangregorian 11y ago
      Bullshit, you typed out the name, so I know you definitely read it. And yeah, defaulting to 'his' is exactly sexist (it's a rather mild form of it, but still).
      - dragonwriter 11y ago
        > Bullshit, you typed out the name, so I know you definitely read it. You can cut and past the name from the header of a post without reading it, and without typing it out. > And yeah, defaulting to 'his' is exactly sexist (it's a rather mild form of it, but still). Adherence to the English convention of using the masculine grammatical gender for subjects of unknown sex/gender identity might bother some readers, but is only "sexist" by an understanding of sexism that trivializes the term and robs it of substantial meaning.
        juliangregorian 11y ago
        > You can cut and past the name from the header of a post without reading it, and without typing it out. Oh really. We are talking about four words here. So are we squinting or something, because you have to be illiterate to not read that incidentally. > Adherence to the English convention of using the masculine grammatical gender for subjects of unknown sex/gender identity might bother some readers, but is only "sexist" by an understanding of sexism that trivializes the term and robs it of substantial meaning. Oh brother. Nope, you're the one redefining. See the myriad examples of "avoiding sexist language" style guides. Just because someone isn't getting raped doesn't mean there's no sexism.
        100timesthis 11y ago

krapp 11y ago

this is free speech - as long as no one gets arrested for expressing an opinion. Free speech doesn't mean no one gets to disagree with you in a public forum. https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/

100timesthis 11y ago
I never said it was, and I never asked amyjess not to express his opinion, I was just pointing out that screaming against censorship is completely irrelevant with the parent post, I tough this was pretty clear.
- juliangregorian 11y ago
  How did you look at the username "amyjess" and then decide "this person clearly prefers to be addressed by male pronouns"?
  - amyjess 11y ago
    The charitable explanation is that they don't pay attention to usernames (I'm guilty of this too) and default to male pronouns for everyone. The sinister explanation is that they dug through my post history, saw that I'm trans (I'm very open about it, and in fact I've been discussing my name change in another thread this morning), and decided to misgender me either out of bigotry or just to be hurtful. I'm not sure which one to believe.
    - 100timesthis 11y ago
      right, that's the deal, if you make a interesting comments I check your other comments, if you make a stupid one why would I bothered? your comment was stupid,I didn't check your comments, just copy-pasted your name, and really. anyway believe what you want, I don't need any "charitable" explanations
- 100timesthis 11y ago
  juliangregorian I can't reply to your comment so I reply here: I didn't even read the name, I'm not interested gender when I talk to someone online I just defaulted into "his". Was just a curiosity or are you implying I'm being sexist?
  - juliangregorian 11y ago
    Bullshit, you typed out the name, so I know you definitely read it. And yeah, defaulting to 'his' is exactly sexist (it's a rather mild form of it, but still).
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      > Bullshit, you typed out the name, so I know you definitely read it. You can cut and past the name from the header of a post without reading it, and without typing it out. > And yeah, defaulting to 'his' is exactly sexist (it's a rather mild form of it, but still). Adherence to the English convention of using the masculine grammatical gender for subjects of unknown sex/gender identity might bother some readers, but is only "sexist" by an understanding of sexism that trivializes the term and robs it of substantial meaning.
      - juliangregorian 11y ago
        > You can cut and past the name from the header of a post without reading it, and without typing it out. Oh really. We are talking about four words here. So are we squinting or something, because you have to be illiterate to not read that incidentally. > Adherence to the English convention of using the masculine grammatical gender for subjects of unknown sex/gender identity might bother some readers, but is only "sexist" by an understanding of sexism that trivializes the term and robs it of substantial meaning. Oh brother. Nope, you're the one redefining. See the myriad examples of "avoiding sexist language" style guides. Just because someone isn't getting raped doesn't mean there's no sexism.
        100timesthis 11y ago