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Unlike games like chess or backgammon there's currently no AI / bots that can beat no limit holdem or omaha. The University of Alberta and others are studying t

Unlike games like chess or backgammon there's currently no AI / bots that can beat no limit holdem or omaha. The University of Alberta and others are studying the game but it will be some years yet before we have a poker equivalent of 'Deep Blue' beating the best players in the game. The major poker sites are well know and trusted and have proved themselves competent in preventing 'cheating' like what you describe. They're very good at all things security, and you can even get a RSA keyfob to log into your account much like some online banks.

scotty79 17y ago
So basically you just trust that poker sites do not have backdoors? That's not something I'd bet my money on.
- dminor 17y ago
  Everyone who plays poker online shares these same concerns, so it's not surprising that the largest sites care deeply about their reputations (especially since they make so much money playing it straight up). That said, there has been at least one major incident where one of the original employees of a poker site used a "superuser" account to see his opponents' cards at the high stakes tables and win lots of money. The players figured it out based on his statistically improbable win rate and an accidental release of the full hand history of one of his tournaments.
- hyperbovine 17y ago
  Congratulations, you win. In fact this has already happened as was the subject of a 60 Minutes piece over a year ago: http://news.cnet.com/60-minutes-report-how-online-gamblers-unmasked-cheaters/ http://news.cnet.com/60-minutes-report-how-online-gamblers-u... I particularly enjoyed this quote: "This Grey Cat person was new. And at first, he seemed like a live one. He seemed terrible," Witteles remembers. "He seemed to play crazy. It seemed like he was giving his money away. Except the only thing was, he wasn't losing. He was playing in a style that was sure to lose, but he was killing the game day after day." Sound familiar anyone?
  - scotty79 17y ago
    It seems that discovery of this cheat was mostly due to the newbness of the cheater. If skilled player possessed backdoor access to poker system and used it wisely, peeking in only from time to time when it's necessary and might go unnoticed he'd be rather undetectable.
scotty79 17y ago
> Unlike games like chess or backgammon there's currently no AI / bots that can beat no limit holdem or omaha. The University of Alberta and others are studying the game but it will be some years yet before we have a poker equivalent of 'Deep Blue' beating the best players in the game. If I were successfully researching poker bot I would not go public with this.

scotty79 17y ago

So basically you just trust that poker sites do not have backdoors? That's not something I'd bet my money on.

dminor 17y ago
Everyone who plays poker online shares these same concerns, so it's not surprising that the largest sites care deeply about their reputations (especially since they make so much money playing it straight up). That said, there has been at least one major incident where one of the original employees of a poker site used a "superuser" account to see his opponents' cards at the high stakes tables and win lots of money. The players figured it out based on his statistically improbable win rate and an accidental release of the full hand history of one of his tournaments.
hyperbovine 17y ago
Congratulations, you win. In fact this has already happened as was the subject of a 60 Minutes piece over a year ago: http://news.cnet.com/60-minutes-report-how-online-gamblers-unmasked-cheaters/ http://news.cnet.com/60-minutes-report-how-online-gamblers-u... I particularly enjoyed this quote: "This Grey Cat person was new. And at first, he seemed like a live one. He seemed terrible," Witteles remembers. "He seemed to play crazy. It seemed like he was giving his money away. Except the only thing was, he wasn't losing. He was playing in a style that was sure to lose, but he was killing the game day after day." Sound familiar anyone?
- scotty79 17y ago
  It seems that discovery of this cheat was mostly due to the newbness of the cheater. If skilled player possessed backdoor access to poker system and used it wisely, peeking in only from time to time when it's necessary and might go unnoticed he'd be rather undetectable.

scotty79 17y ago

> Unlike games like chess or backgammon there's currently no AI / bots that can beat no limit holdem or omaha. The University of Alberta and others are studying the game but it will be some years yet before we have a poker equivalent of 'Deep Blue' beating the best players in the game. If I were successfully researching poker bot I would not go public with this.