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I think the biggest flaw is the location of the entertainment center next to sewer system.

by mariusz79 11y ago

scribu 11y ago
What? The brain is nowhere near the butt. /s
- las_cases 11y ago
  My thought exactly! (highfive)
jkyle 11y ago
If you really think about it, it's probably unavoidable. You have to reward an organism when it performs necessary functions. Which is why defecation and urination are pleasurable. You could move the piping, but you'd still have to reward the action. And if there's reward sensors there, clever animals will figure out how to trigger the reward without the action. In other words, you can move the sewer but they'd probably just build another playground there.
- jader201 11y ago
  Interesting. I would have thought "no longer feeling full" would have been reward enough for the behavior to be learned.
  - Varcht 11y ago
    We spent most of our energy to feel full, why would we want to not feel full?
- ajuc 11y ago
  You could also make the "full tank condition" painfull, without making draining it pleasurable. Shouldn't lead to addiction, and would work as well.
  - SilasX 11y ago
    At risk of being quoted ... that description already matches my internal experience of the psychology of bodily waste elimination. I certainly wouldn't characterize urination as fun in the sense of "hm, how can I make this happen more often?"
  - jkyle 11y ago
    That would only work if you wanted the organism to always reach a full tank, or near full tank, before taking the action. I'd wager that's a non-ideal situation. Think about the times you've reached a completely full bladder...not a good position to be in. So you have a combo. Taking a whiz is pleasurable, so you do it when you can. But if you get over full, you get a nice zap of discomfort to let you know you're in a danger zone.
    - ajuc 11y ago
      you make the pain gradually increase from 0 to 1 for blader filled to 0.8 to 1.0 respectivly, and add automatic safety valve to be sure. It's basically how it works right now, no need for messing with positive reinforcement.
- agumonkey 11y ago
  I view 'entertainment' as a recall to primitive satisfaction brain response in our first months of life. That's why we kiss who we 'love' (eating him symbolically), etc, etc
tspiteri 11y ago
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3169 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3169
griffinmahon 11y ago
Hitchens fan?
brenfrow 11y ago
I'm sorry... I could be the only one, but I've never had trouble with the configuration. I don't know if I would call it the worst. I think cancer would top my list.

I think the biggest flaw is the location of the entertainment center next to sewer system.

scribu 11y ago

What? The brain is nowhere near the butt. /s

las_cases 11y ago
My thought exactly! (highfive)

jkyle 11y ago

If you really think about it, it's probably unavoidable. You have to reward an organism when it performs necessary functions. Which is why defecation and urination are pleasurable. You could move the piping, but you'd still have to reward the action. And if there's reward sensors there, clever animals will figure out how to trigger the reward without the action. In other words, you can move the sewer but they'd probably just build another playground there.

jader201 11y ago
Interesting. I would have thought "no longer feeling full" would have been reward enough for the behavior to be learned.
- Varcht 11y ago
  We spent most of our energy to feel full, why would we want to not feel full?
ajuc 11y ago
You could also make the "full tank condition" painfull, without making draining it pleasurable. Shouldn't lead to addiction, and would work as well.
- SilasX 11y ago
  At risk of being quoted ... that description already matches my internal experience of the psychology of bodily waste elimination. I certainly wouldn't characterize urination as fun in the sense of "hm, how can I make this happen more often?"
- jkyle 11y ago
  That would only work if you wanted the organism to always reach a full tank, or near full tank, before taking the action. I'd wager that's a non-ideal situation. Think about the times you've reached a completely full bladder...not a good position to be in. So you have a combo. Taking a whiz is pleasurable, so you do it when you can. But if you get over full, you get a nice zap of discomfort to let you know you're in a danger zone.
  - ajuc 11y ago
    you make the pain gradually increase from 0 to 1 for blader filled to 0.8 to 1.0 respectivly, and add automatic safety valve to be sure. It's basically how it works right now, no need for messing with positive reinforcement.
agumonkey 11y ago
I view 'entertainment' as a recall to primitive satisfaction brain response in our first months of life. That's why we kiss who we 'love' (eating him symbolically), etc, etc

tspiteri 11y ago

http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3169 http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3169

griffinmahon 11y ago

Hitchens fan?

brenfrow 11y ago

I'm sorry... I could be the only one, but I've never had trouble with the configuration. I don't know if I would call it the worst. I think cancer would top my list.