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So? What prevents any of the other tenants in your apartment from doing that?

by xaybey 11y ago

ild 11y ago
1. Dent in rental history or police history. 2. Social repercussions with neighbors
- cbd1984 11y ago
  > Social repercussions with neighbors ...and? If this amounts to dirty looks in the shared hallway or similar, it's pointless. In fact, it's worse than pointless: The caring, socially-responsible people who don't want to have assholes will be hurt worst, and will be motivated to leave the business after a few bad apples, whereas the people who honestly don't give two shits until the police show up will carry on regardless, and take on more assholes as long as their checks don't bounce. Social approbation only works well in tight-knit societies where someone not liking you can have ripple effects through everything you do. "The Scarlet Letter" is an example, both of how it works and how it is honestly a bad way to run a society. You need laws to put teeth in the "don't do that" parts of the social contract, and you need to enforce those laws. Lawsuits can work, but they're messy and expensive and generally so draining for both sides that winning one is something of an academic point. That's one reason we as a society attempt to use lawsuits as a method of last resort, and create regulations and regulatory bodies which can enforce punishments without sending an injured party through the massive financial and personal ruin of bringing suit against someone.
  - thomasz 11y ago
    Most people who act like a horde of drunken monkeys on vacation act like perfectly normal people at home.
    - warfangle 11y ago
      You've never been to Hoboken!
oh_sigh 11y ago
Fear of eviction, as well as most people being normal people and wanting to maintain good relationships with people they may see every day.
- undersuit 11y ago
  Not when you're drunk enough to puke all over the building, no at that point you're more interested in how that sunbeam is triggering your hangover.

So? What prevents any of the other tenants in your apartment from doing that?

by xaybey 11y ago

So? What prevents any of the other tenants in your apartment from doing that?

ild 11y ago

1. Dent in rental history or police history. 2. Social repercussions with neighbors

cbd1984 11y ago
> Social repercussions with neighbors ...and? If this amounts to dirty looks in the shared hallway or similar, it's pointless. In fact, it's worse than pointless: The caring, socially-responsible people who don't want to have assholes will be hurt worst, and will be motivated to leave the business after a few bad apples, whereas the people who honestly don't give two shits until the police show up will carry on regardless, and take on more assholes as long as their checks don't bounce. Social approbation only works well in tight-knit societies where someone not liking you can have ripple effects through everything you do. "The Scarlet Letter" is an example, both of how it works and how it is honestly a bad way to run a society. You need laws to put teeth in the "don't do that" parts of the social contract, and you need to enforce those laws. Lawsuits can work, but they're messy and expensive and generally so draining for both sides that winning one is something of an academic point. That's one reason we as a society attempt to use lawsuits as a method of last resort, and create regulations and regulatory bodies which can enforce punishments without sending an injured party through the massive financial and personal ruin of bringing suit against someone.
- thomasz 11y ago
  Most people who act like a horde of drunken monkeys on vacation act like perfectly normal people at home.
  - warfangle 11y ago
    You've never been to Hoboken!

oh_sigh 11y ago

Fear of eviction, as well as most people being normal people and wanting to maintain good relationships with people they may see every day.

undersuit 11y ago
Not when you're drunk enough to puke all over the building, no at that point you're more interested in how that sunbeam is triggering your hangover.