I wouldn't want to make myself a part of that problem. If I found myself on a project where the business folks didn't care about things like defect rate or sup

I wouldn't want to make myself a part of that problem. If I found myself on a project where the business folks didn't care about things like defect rate or supportability, I'd be looking for a new job pronto. Those things aren't invisible to the business, they're a core part of the customer's value perception. A product manager who doesn't understand that is a product manager who doesn't have the slightest idea how to manage a product. Similarly, living in continuous crunch mode is something I let myself get bamboozled into quite a bit in my younger days. I bake time to leave the camp cleaner than I found it into my effort estimates, and I know how not to let myself be pushed past my limits. If I worked for a place that couldn't respect that, I'd also be looking for a new job pronto. I hope that you were being hyperbolic for rhetorical effect in your post, but if your work environment is really like the situations you were describing then I would also encourage you to be looking for a new job pronto. Life's too short to waste on that kind of stress.