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I'm not sure how this is seen as a positive thing. Journalists, with, on average, limited knowledge of infosec, holding in their possession classified documents

I'm not sure how this is seen as a positive thing. Journalists, with, on average, limited knowledge of infosec, holding in their possession classified documents. Lots and lots of classified documents. I'd wager a guess that at least a handful of these journalists were holding said documents on a system that had its share of known vulnerabilities. I'd be absurdly happy to be proven wrong, but there is a very high chance that every single document snowden distributed is on sale to the highest bidder, and has been for a while.

robotkilla 11y ago
There is zero evidence that the data was stolen from these journalists and sold to the highest bidder. Since there is zero evidence, you have to cinsider yourself wrong for now.
- irishcoffee 11y ago
  Ah, I am not so sure about that. [1] These are just things publicly available on google in a 3-minute perusal of search results. Paragraph 15 [0] [1] http://politix.topix.com/story/6798-who-stole-computer-from-glenn-greenwalds-home http://politix.topix.com/story/6798-who-stole-computer-from-... [0]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/world/asia/china-said-to-have-made-call-to-let-leaker-depart.html?hp&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/world/asia/china-said-to-h...
  - robotkilla 11y ago
    Even still, no claims by any government agency or any other source have been laid that the data in question was stolen from Greenwald or his team. Believing that the data was stolen and sold is mere conjecture.
    - irishcoffee 11y ago
      I guess you didn't read the links. > Two Western intelligence experts, who worked for major government spy agencies, said they believed that the Chinese government had managed to drain the contents of the four laptops that Mr. Snowden said he brought to Hong Kong, and that he said were with him during his stay at a Hong Kong hotel. I believe that qualifies as a "claim by a government agency"
      - robotkilla 11y ago
        actually, i did read it (you seem to assume a lot of things). speculation by two ex-intelligence experts hardly confirms that the data was stolen. Believing the assumptions of two experts is no better than believing your own assumptions.

robotkilla 11y ago

There is zero evidence that the data was stolen from these journalists and sold to the highest bidder. Since there is zero evidence, you have to cinsider yourself wrong for now.

irishcoffee 11y ago
Ah, I am not so sure about that. [1] These are just things publicly available on google in a 3-minute perusal of search results. Paragraph 15 [0] [1] http://politix.topix.com/story/6798-who-stole-computer-from-glenn-greenwalds-home http://politix.topix.com/story/6798-who-stole-computer-from-... [0]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/world/asia/china-said-to-have-made-call-to-let-leaker-depart.html?hp&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/world/asia/china-said-to-h...
- robotkilla 11y ago
  Even still, no claims by any government agency or any other source have been laid that the data in question was stolen from Greenwald or his team. Believing that the data was stolen and sold is mere conjecture.
  - irishcoffee 11y ago
    I guess you didn't read the links. > Two Western intelligence experts, who worked for major government spy agencies, said they believed that the Chinese government had managed to drain the contents of the four laptops that Mr. Snowden said he brought to Hong Kong, and that he said were with him during his stay at a Hong Kong hotel. I believe that qualifies as a "claim by a government agency"
    - robotkilla 11y ago
      actually, i did read it (you seem to assume a lot of things). speculation by two ex-intelligence experts hardly confirms that the data was stolen. Believing the assumptions of two experts is no better than believing your own assumptions.