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The author claims that memes aren't "real", they're just an idea; yet ideas are exactly what memes are all about! The more attempts are made to justify the clai
by chriswarbo 12y ago
The author claims that memes aren't "real", they're just an idea; yet ideas are exactly what memes are all about! The more attempts are made to justify the claim, the more clearly the evidence for memes piles up: ie. that memetics is a clear example of a meme!
Some deliciously irony:
> Since its introduction almost 40 years ago, the term has taken root in science, language, and popular culture.
> Should we take the existence of memes on scientific faith, or countenance the parsimonious explanation that ideas are just ideas that we use for better or for worse?
> There is no reason to invent a language or a science, or insert some entirely fictitious evolutionary notion, every time we have a question that seems unanswerable.
> It sounds nice, and perhaps the meme is a useful analogy—but it is just an analogy.
Dennet's favourite examples of memes are words. They're clearly "physically real", in that we can capture them with a microphone or a pen. We're nowhere near able to measure the neurological effect of a word on a brain, but we certainly know that the effect is there, since hearing words (eg. instructions) can alter our behaviour.
- _rpd 12y agoMore irony: the author is attempting to proliferate the meme that "memes are a myth" - presumably to defend some sacred belief system that memetic analysis undermines.
- bikamonki 12y agoMemetic analysis would not undermine it, it would explain it ;) But I guess explanation kills the magic. In any case, I agree with you, 'deniers' of memetics tend to be more spiritual/religious. Again, memetics would explain the denial as well: making/breaking neural patterns is no easy task.
- _rpd 12y ago> I guess explanation kills the magic. Once belief systems are understood as evolving memetic complexes that compete for niches in the ecology of the noosphere - well, it does tend to unweave the rainbow.