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When your family was travelling, did you make extra noise at the houses and apartments you rented? Why do you expect most people to disrespect the people around

by jonlucc 11y ago

When your family was travelling, did you make extra noise at the houses and apartments you rented? Why do you expect most people to disrespect the people around them if they are only there temporarily?

jedberg 11y ago
No, because I'm respectful of others. But I definitely know people who have the attitude of "well I'll never see these people again!". Also, when I stay in a real hotel, there have been many times when folks were noisy and disrespectful.
- rootedbox 11y ago
  And when you are at a hotel and people are acting up.. You can go to the manager. What happens when your neighbor decides to rent their place via Air BNB, And folks are noisy and disrespectful.. Who do you complain to?? The home owner?? Do you think he's going to kick the people out? They are a revenue stream, and you are not. Well.. you may say. I'll call the cops. Ok. Your neighbor gets a warning.. then eventually a 300 dollar fine.. Your neighbor can afford a few fines a month from a few random loud nights as long as the air bnb money keeps coming in. In fact your neighbor will need to make sure their place is full more nights if you start calling the cops.
  - pas 11y ago
    > you can go to the manager That's an ugly workaround. I want a solution. Party Hotels and Shut the Fuck Up Hotels, where walls are not paper thin. AirBnB can throw a few checkboxes there to manage this, and figure out if a place is in a residental condominum with a lot of non bnb neighbors, or it's in the middle of downtown next to all the bars.
- nlh 11y ago
  So this actually brings up an interesting point: There are many of us that use AirBNB, like you, and are quiet, respectful, and essentially good actors. The problems that almost everyone seems to talk about are the (rare) bad actors -- the loud, disrespectful, messy, troublesome guests who ruin the residential experience for others. So I wonder if the solution is in the platform itself -- it's not AirBNB that people don't like, it's bad AirBNB'ers. And maybe if AirBNB puts some real effort into cracking down / banning / preventing bad AirBNB'ers, a lot of the bigger issues & externalities go away...?
  - eropple 11y ago
    Until JerkSleepers starts, with the goal of disrupting that evil incumbent AirBNB by letting people exercise their freedoms and do what they want. I mean...HomeAway is already what you want AirBNB to do.
- preston4tw 11y ago
  The rating system on Airbnb is supposed to discourage rude behavior though, right? If a guest is a prick, at least in theory, they get reviewed as such, giving future potential hosts the ability to screen them. I wonder if there is any parallel with hotels where they maintain any kind of shared blacklist.

by jonlucc 11y ago

jedberg 11y ago

No, because I'm respectful of others. But I definitely know people who have the attitude of "well I'll never see these people again!". Also, when I stay in a real hotel, there have been many times when folks were noisy and disrespectful.

rootedbox 11y ago
And when you are at a hotel and people are acting up.. You can go to the manager. What happens when your neighbor decides to rent their place via Air BNB, And folks are noisy and disrespectful.. Who do you complain to?? The home owner?? Do you think he's going to kick the people out? They are a revenue stream, and you are not. Well.. you may say. I'll call the cops. Ok. Your neighbor gets a warning.. then eventually a 300 dollar fine.. Your neighbor can afford a few fines a month from a few random loud nights as long as the air bnb money keeps coming in. In fact your neighbor will need to make sure their place is full more nights if you start calling the cops.
- pas 11y ago
  > you can go to the manager That's an ugly workaround. I want a solution. Party Hotels and Shut the Fuck Up Hotels, where walls are not paper thin. AirBnB can throw a few checkboxes there to manage this, and figure out if a place is in a residental condominum with a lot of non bnb neighbors, or it's in the middle of downtown next to all the bars.
nlh 11y ago
So this actually brings up an interesting point: There are many of us that use AirBNB, like you, and are quiet, respectful, and essentially good actors. The problems that almost everyone seems to talk about are the (rare) bad actors -- the loud, disrespectful, messy, troublesome guests who ruin the residential experience for others. So I wonder if the solution is in the platform itself -- it's not AirBNB that people don't like, it's bad AirBNB'ers. And maybe if AirBNB puts some real effort into cracking down / banning / preventing bad AirBNB'ers, a lot of the bigger issues & externalities go away...?
- eropple 11y ago
  Until JerkSleepers starts, with the goal of disrupting that evil incumbent AirBNB by letting people exercise their freedoms and do what they want. I mean...HomeAway is already what you want AirBNB to do.
preston4tw 11y ago
The rating system on Airbnb is supposed to discourage rude behavior though, right? If a guest is a prick, at least in theory, they get reviewed as such, giving future potential hosts the ability to screen them. I wonder if there is any parallel with hotels where they maintain any kind of shared blacklist.