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real climate is my goto for climate science - well written by scientists for interested non-scientists (note: this doesn't mean it's dumbed down - be prepared f

by jgamman 17y ago

real climate is my goto for climate science - well written by scientists for interested non-scientists (note: this doesn't mean it's dumbed down - be prepared for some detail) http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/#more-1853 http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cr...

zzleeper 17y ago
From here: http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d20-ClimateGate--Climate-centers-server-hacked-revealing-documents-and-emails?cid=exrss-Climate-Change-Examiner http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y200... "Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you’re free to use RC [RealClimate.org - A supposed neutral climate change website] Rein any way you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about what comments we screen through, and we’ll be very careful to answer any questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you’d like us to include." If the comments are modded like that (keeping only the "favorable ones"), I wouldn't be so sure about RC's quality
- jerf 17y ago
  That's not news, though, or at least it shouldn't be. RC's moderation policy of deleting or not approving things they don't want to deal with is well-known, at least to me. I believe it is within the rights of a site owner to do that. If you don't like that, take it into account as you read the site. We didn't need any leaked emails to tell us that comments can be deleted on RC. (Though it probably is fair to point out that there is nothing neutral about the site, any more than the talk.origins faq is neutral. Doesn't make it wrong; does make it not neutral.)
  - camccann 17y ago
    Science isn't even supposed to be neutral; leave that to Wikipedia. I don't even know why anyone would expect a site presenting accurate scientific information to be neutral, wouldn't that completely miss the point?
- gjm11 17y ago
  Looking at the RC thread linked above, it sure doesn't seem as if the moderators are deleting all unfavorable comments.

by jgamman 17y ago

zzleeper 17y ago

From here: http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d20-ClimateGate--Climate-centers-server-hacked-revealing-documents-and-emails?cid=exrss-Climate-Change-Examiner http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y200... "Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you’re free to use RC [RealClimate.org - A supposed neutral climate change website] Rein any way you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about what comments we screen through, and we’ll be very careful to answer any questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you’d like us to include." If the comments are modded like that (keeping only the "favorable ones"), I wouldn't be so sure about RC's quality

jerf 17y ago
That's not news, though, or at least it shouldn't be. RC's moderation policy of deleting or not approving things they don't want to deal with is well-known, at least to me. I believe it is within the rights of a site owner to do that. If you don't like that, take it into account as you read the site. We didn't need any leaked emails to tell us that comments can be deleted on RC. (Though it probably is fair to point out that there is nothing neutral about the site, any more than the talk.origins faq is neutral. Doesn't make it wrong; does make it not neutral.)
- camccann 17y ago
  Science isn't even supposed to be neutral; leave that to Wikipedia. I don't even know why anyone would expect a site presenting accurate scientific information to be neutral, wouldn't that completely miss the point?
gjm11 17y ago
Looking at the RC thread linked above, it sure doesn't seem as if the moderators are deleting all unfavorable comments.