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You know, I hear this attitude all the time. I think it reflects lazy thinking, and the conflation of cynicism and "cool". Yes, money in politics is a corrupt
by Frondo 11y ago
You know, I hear this attitude all the time. I think it reflects lazy thinking, and the conflation of cynicism and "cool".
Yes, money in politics is a corrupting influence, yes, neither major party gets it right on some big issues (like the size of our military and how ready we are to use it, how much wall street gets away with ripping us off, etc), but are they the same?
No, of course not. Had McCain won in 2008, think we'd be looking at something like McCainCare now? As imperfect as Obamacare is, it's a vast improvement over the old status quo, and not an issue the republicans were going to tackle in our lifetimes.
- m_mueller 11y agoFurthermore, look at Tesla. I think that's a pretty good win for the Obama administration, in that without them throwing some money in, the US right now wouldn't have a promising player in the new market of all-electric cars.
- jessaustin 11y agoThanks to Solyndra etc., I doubt we'll hear much from the Dems about that.
- m_mueller 11y agoI don't see what's the big deal there - a bailout is a bailout, it's not an ideal situation for anyone, but it's far better than the alternatives of just letting all promising companies fail. If they can't defend that, how can they defend the banking bailouts of 2008/2009?
- jessaustin 11y agoTo my way of thinking, Solyndra is far more defensible than the bank bailouts, especially when you look at it in the context of Tesla and other companies they've funded. However, that's not how it plays politically, and there's really nothing Democrats can do about that in the short-to-medium term. Besides, Tesla still has something of an "elite" flavor, so bragging about "saving" it (which probably isn't true, but they did help) doesn't get them much credit from voters who don't even know anyone who owns a Tesla.
- patrickaljord 11y agoObamaCare was pretty much the same thing as RomneyCare so yes, we'd probably have the same thing. Can we stop pretending there's a difference?
- bruceb 11y agoI didn't see McCain proposing RomneyCare, hell didn't see Romeny proposing RomneyCare. So no we would not have had the same thing.
- patrickaljord 11y agoRomney basically implemented Obamacare before Obamacare even existed in his own state. Had he won, he would have implemented it at the federal level. The only reason he was against Obamacare during the campaign was because he was running against Obama. ObamaCare by the way isn't that great, it's more of a kayak for private insurances than anything else and it benefits them more than anyone else, it's kind of yet another extra tax that benefits a few corporations.