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What was the one credible plot? I have only ever heard of plots initiated by undercover FBI agents, often involving mentally ill patsies.
by sukilot 11y ago
What was the one credible plot? I have only ever heard of plots initiated by undercover FBI agents, often involving mentally ill patsies.
- simoncion 11y agoOkay. This is is a derail, but whatever. My claim is: 1) Pretty much every telecom system in the world uses the Internet to transmit their data stream at some point. 2) The NSA (whether through Agency-installed taps or data sharing agreements with others) has the ability to intercept all of the data that hits the Internet. Of the data that they intercept, they almost certainly retain every not-completely-useless bit. 3) Statistically speaking, someone involved in a credible terror plot has had that communication data cross the Internet. People aren't that good at OPSEC. Shit, even Army officers fuck OPSEC up from time to time. 4) 1, 2, and 3 mean that somewhere in NSA's vast data warehouse is evidence of a credible terror plot. Note that I don't claim: "The NSA has learned of at least one credible terror plot using the data that they have obtained through their dragnet.". Indeed, if a plot had been stopped by data from the dragnet programs, I would expect that fact to be trumpeted from the rooftops. :) They're drowning in data. They can't analyze it all. Pervasive full-take programs are bad for reasons beyond the obvious civil liberty ones.