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U.S.A Freedom Act is a mass surveillance bill in sheeps clothing

48 points by zmanian 11y ago

anonbanker 11y ago
I for one, am shocked that a bill with the words "USA" "Freedom" or "Patriot" could be construed by anyone to actually be about those topics. As George W. Bush once said, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on, uh... shame on... You can't fool me again."
- zaroth 11y ago
  Googled for it an found this gem of a video, I needed a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM I mean, almost makes me nostalgic for those... oh never mind, no it doesn't.
  - anonbanker 11y ago
    I am of the opinion that George W. Bush is the greatest actor this country has ever known. Andy Kauffman didn't perform as brilliantly as Mr. Bush did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6LquMyLvU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6LquMyLvU Everyone disagrees with me, but nobody's been able to convince me that I'm wrong.
- 13years 11y ago
  That implies that you might have actually read the contents of a bill or two. Something that congress doesn't actually do anymore.
godgod 11y ago
Why is it every single bill pass through Congress has a hidden/secret or nefarious agenda attached to it? Can't we just get clean, honest non confusing bills? It's as if our elected representatives are trying to fool the public on every issue. I'm so twisted I have no idea what to believe anymore!
chris_wot 11y ago
I wrote most of the Wikipedia article on the USA PATRIOT Act. In fact, I wrote all the section summaries [1]. Frankly, it boggles the mind that the NSA thought that they could bypass the following: "not be conducted of a United States person solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States." That the NSA did this is, to my mind, not a failure of the Patriot Act but an enditement on the judiciary. And by which I mean the FISC. 1. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_summary_of_the_Patriot_Act,_Title_II http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_summary_of_the_Patrio...

48 points by zmanian 11y ago

I for one, am shocked that a bill with the words "USA" "Freedom" or "Patriot" could be construed by anyone to actually be about those topics. As George W. Bush once said, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on, uh... shame on... You can't fool me again."

zaroth 11y ago
Googled for it an found this gem of a video, I needed a good laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM I mean, almost makes me nostalgic for those... oh never mind, no it doesn't.
- anonbanker 11y ago
  I am of the opinion that George W. Bush is the greatest actor this country has ever known. Andy Kauffman didn't perform as brilliantly as Mr. Bush did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6LquMyLvU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o6LquMyLvU Everyone disagrees with me, but nobody's been able to convince me that I'm wrong.
13years 11y ago
That implies that you might have actually read the contents of a bill or two. Something that congress doesn't actually do anymore.

godgod 11y ago

Why is it every single bill pass through Congress has a hidden/secret or nefarious agenda attached to it? Can't we just get clean, honest non confusing bills? It's as if our elected representatives are trying to fool the public on every issue. I'm so twisted I have no idea what to believe anymore!

chris_wot 11y ago

I wrote most of the Wikipedia article on the USA PATRIOT Act. In fact, I wrote all the section summaries [1]. Frankly, it boggles the mind that the NSA thought that they could bypass the following: "not be conducted of a United States person solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States." That the NSA did this is, to my mind, not a failure of the Patriot Act but an enditement on the judiciary. And by which I mean the FISC. 1. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_summary_of_the_Patriot_Act,_Title_II http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_summary_of_the_Patrio...