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I'm very impressed by the capabilities. I've seen 'follow me' drones before, but I don't know if I've seen any that are waterproof or as compact as this. And th

I'm very impressed by the capabilities. I've seen 'follow me' drones before, but I don't know if I've seen any that are waterproof or as compact as this. And the smiling face on the front is a nice touch. It's still hard to part with my money (even at 50% off) when the ship date is next year though. I've been burned by various kickstarter projects that get delayed ad infinitum.

brk 11y ago
I've been burned by various kickstarter projects that get delayed ad infinitum. Me too. I've decided that there are no new things that I need so much that I can't wait until the thing is actually shipping. In many cases I've been quite happy waiting until a v2 release when the early bugs and quirks are worked out.
- Nadya 11y ago
  This is exactly why I've grown wary of pre-orders. Even with huge savings for being "an early backer" - I've found I get more for my money (and sometimes anything for my money) if I wait until an improved "v2" ships a few months after initial release.
bezaorj 11y ago
From the FAQ: "What is your policy on refunds? If you decide to cancel your pre-order before Lily ships, we will provide a full refund to you."
- raesene9 11y ago
  Assuming of course that they don't run out of funds before they ship. This isn't a slight on this project specifically but there is a risk that any project which isn't yet in production won't get that far...
- jamie_ca 11y ago
  And if you believe that, read up on the drama with https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pirate3d/the-buccaneer-the-3d-printer-that-everyone-can-use/comments https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pirate3d/the-buccaneer-... TLDR; during development of the printer, a number of things have changed (including a noticeable reduction in print volume). Refunds were offered August of last year, and the vast majority of refund requests are still pending (and currently half a month behind their own deadline for the latest update. Not that I have any knowledge on whether the people behind Lily have better or worse communication and management skills, but just because they're happy to offer refunds doesn't mean they'll offer them promptly.
  - jonknee 11y ago
    Kickstarter is different than a direct purchase. Kickstarter maintains they aren't a store so when things don't happen to plan you're kind of on your own. With a direct purchase you can do a chargeback easily and get your money back one way or the other.
    - CPLX 11y ago
      > With a direct purchase you can do a chargeback easily Not after 90 days you can't.

brk 11y ago

I've been burned by various kickstarter projects that get delayed ad infinitum. Me too. I've decided that there are no new things that I need so much that I can't wait until the thing is actually shipping. In many cases I've been quite happy waiting until a v2 release when the early bugs and quirks are worked out.

Nadya 11y ago
This is exactly why I've grown wary of pre-orders. Even with huge savings for being "an early backer" - I've found I get more for my money (and sometimes anything for my money) if I wait until an improved "v2" ships a few months after initial release.

bezaorj 11y ago

From the FAQ: "What is your policy on refunds? If you decide to cancel your pre-order before Lily ships, we will provide a full refund to you."

raesene9 11y ago
Assuming of course that they don't run out of funds before they ship. This isn't a slight on this project specifically but there is a risk that any project which isn't yet in production won't get that far...
jamie_ca 11y ago
And if you believe that, read up on the drama with https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pirate3d/the-buccaneer-the-3d-printer-that-everyone-can-use/comments https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pirate3d/the-buccaneer-... TLDR; during development of the printer, a number of things have changed (including a noticeable reduction in print volume). Refunds were offered August of last year, and the vast majority of refund requests are still pending (and currently half a month behind their own deadline for the latest update. Not that I have any knowledge on whether the people behind Lily have better or worse communication and management skills, but just because they're happy to offer refunds doesn't mean they'll offer them promptly.
- jonknee 11y ago
  Kickstarter is different than a direct purchase. Kickstarter maintains they aren't a store so when things don't happen to plan you're kind of on your own. With a direct purchase you can do a chargeback easily and get your money back one way or the other.
  - CPLX 11y ago
    > With a direct purchase you can do a chargeback easily Not after 90 days you can't.