> I think we're there today with a bit of skill and minor bit of work on top, but a little bit of work from cloud/virt solutions will push us over the hump. I

> I think we're there today with a bit of skill and minor bit of work on top, but a little bit of work from cloud/virt solutions will push us over the hump. I think that's true, but my timeline is based on how long I see it taking 'mainstream' enterprise companies to adopt immutable infra—for many of the orgs I've worked with, they've only recently completed a sea change from dedicated servers to virtualized 'cloud' deployments. So it really depends on who you're working with; many businesses are making the move today, but cautiously. Once the early adopters complete rolling things out to production and working out the kinks, we'll finally get to the late majority/stability, and I won't have to commiserate with the thousands of sysadmins stuck with dozens, hundreds, or thousands of VMs :)